Has anyone ever wiped XP and loaded 2000?

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t20user · #1 Post by **t20user** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 2:42 pm

I am contemplating wiping XP from my T41 and loading 2000. I have long been under the impression that 2k is more reliable than XP and lately I have been having recurring problems where I cannot close an application and worse I cannot get task manager to come up with CTRL+ALT+DELETE.

pianowizard · #2 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:32 pm

Windows 2000 would certainly work except that you would need to manually download and install more drivers.

It's also my experience/impression that Win2K is very (I mean very) slightly more reliable than XP.

dr_st · #3 Post by **dr_st** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:40 pm

And with newer hardware (T41 certainly qualifies for that), XP usually works better.

agarza · #4 Post by **agarza** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:54 pm

I'd suggest you install Server 2003 SP2!! It's the direct succesor of Windows NT > then Windows 2000.
Supposedly Server 2003 is far more stable than XP, it can be converted to function as a Workstation.
I did a pilot test and installed Server 2003 SP2 on my T42p, it ran OK, the drivers OK, with the exception the ATI Control Panel didn't work, meaning I could not output the S-video signal to my TV. There should be workarounds.

zacha81 · #5 Post by **zacha81** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:23 am

we installed win2k on my fathers t40 (just because he had windows 2000 on his previous laptop and I did not wan't to reinstall and reconfigure everything) so I just mirrored the hard drive to the t40's and installed the new drivers. windows 2000 runs perfectly on the t40, but at least there might be compatibility issues with newer software and issues with updating windows as support for windows 2000 has ended.

@ xtr: i don't see a benefit from installing windows server 2k3 R2 as this is based on the same sources as Windows XP is, so as long you won't need the server features Windows Server offers (e.g. multiple users looged into the machine via Remote Desktop or Running a more advanced IIS or other server services) Windows XP does just the same as Windows Server does (except some different default setting like for the memory management). The Only thing you'll achive running Windows Server is that you will get driver and software compatibility issues. Not because the software wouldn't be able to run on Win 2k3 but because it has been written badly and simply will not install or not install correctly or not start up because it assumes there is a not- compatible version of Windows running.

#6 Post by **jdhurst** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:56 am

You should do as you wish, although I wouldn't load a server operating system onto a workstation laptop. Windows 2000 works very well, although it is out of support and fading fast. Windows XP never crashes (and I mean never), so I don't see how anything can be more reliable than something that is just ultimately reliable.

Both Windows 2000 and Windows XP require careful setup for reliability. Windows XP requires the extra stop of removing eye candy and constraining cache and some of the automation for performance.
... JDH

t20user · #7 Post by **t20user** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:26 pm

I have no problem manually setting up a Win 2k machine. In my experience XP has proven to be less reliable/stable than XP, so I cant neccessarly be persuaded otherwise. The issue of not pulling up task manager is the last straw.

dr_st · #8 Post by **dr_st** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:04 pm

t20user wrote:The issue of not pulling up task manager is the last straw.

It's often caused by malware.

#9 Post by **jdhurst** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:28 pm

dr_st wrote:...It's often caused by malware.

That, and incorrect installation. One of the prime differentiators is that Windows 2000 out of the box was designed for business persons and works pretty well out of the box, wheres XP out of the box was designed for homeowners and games and it does NOT work well right out of the box. But properly set up, it looks exactly like Windows 2000 (except for clear type) and is totally reliable.
... JDH

zacha81 · #10 Post by **zacha81** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:13 am

you may disable cleartype as well if you like it better without.

frankiepankie · #11 Post by **frankiepankie** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:13 am

Windows 2000 doesn't have ClearType fonts.
Windows 2000 has no wireless software, so you must install the program supplied with your wireless card.

Windows 2000 can't run software like Windows Live Messenger, IE7, WMP11

GnatGoSplat · #12 Post by **GnatGoSplat** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:56 am

I can't imagine an OS being any more stable than XP. Most of my personal machines run Vista, but I use XP at work and hibernate instead of shutting down. I'll have uptime of several weeks with no problems and the only time the machine ever gets rebooted is when Microsoft sends a security update that requires it.

I agree that it could be malware.

pianowizard · #13 Post by **pianowizard** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:41 am

frankiepankie wrote:Windows 2000 has no wireless software, so you must install the program supplied with your wireless card.

This is a huge inconvenience of Win 2K, and is the main reason I prefer Win XP.

frankiepankie wrote:Windows 2000 can't run software like Windows Live Messenger, IE7, WMP11

Also MS Office 2007.

#14 Post by **jdhurst** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:49 am

GnatGoSplat wrote:... I'll have uptime of several weeks with no problems and the only time the machine ever gets rebooted is when Microsoft sends a security update that requires it.

Make that several years for me on my always ON XP Pro Desktop.
... JDH

agarza · #15 Post by **agarza** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:34 pm

XP install disk could be modded with some DLL files from Windows 2000 & Windows 2003 to scalate reliability as well as shuttind down critical ports that could remotely harm your computer.

I've tested 2003 Server but it requires more memory than my XP Lite currently installed on my T42p. I can't imagine having to switch to Vista since XP is very stable and every single software runs in it

sugo · #16 Post by **sugo** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:06 am

XP has been very stable here. I am keeping it as long as I can ...

frankiepankie · #17 Post by **frankiepankie** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:39 am

pianowizard wrote:
frankiepankie wrote:Windows 2000 has no wireless software, so you must install the program supplied with your wireless card.
This is a huge inconvenience of Win 2K, and is the main reason I prefer Win XP.

frankiepankie wrote:Windows 2000 can't run software like Windows Live Messenger, IE7, WMP11
Also MS Office 2007.

Yes, that is indeed a huge inconvenience of Win 2K. I always hoped for an update from Microsoft, that adds the internal wireless software like Windows XP, or a way to get the XP wireless manager in Win 2K.

And that you cannot use the newest software, is not really a matter. Because if it works good, why would you change it

RoadHazard · #18 Post by **RoadHazard** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:48 am

No offense here but from the problem that you described, Windows 2000 won't help you. A fresh installation may make your problems go away for the moment but you could end up having the same problems again no matter which OS you use if you don't know how to protect your system.

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Has anyone ever wiped XP and loaded 2000?

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