T40 Price?

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getsandy · #1 Post by **getsandy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:36 pm

I am planning to buy used T40 with following configuration.

Centrino 1.5 GHz,
512 MB RAM,
60GB Harddisk,
CD-RW/DVD Combo.

I think there is no warranty.

How much can I pay for this configuration?

Thanks

Sandy

pianowizard · #2 Post by **pianowizard** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:43 pm

Many other factors determine the worth of a T40, some of them even more important than what you listed. For example, is the display resolution XGA or SXGA+? Does it have an internal wireless card? Does it have a Certificate of Authenticity sticker for Windows, and if it does, is it for Windows XP or Windows 2000? What's the cosmetic condition of the laptop? Is the 512MB RAM on one 512MB module or two 256MB modules? How much charge does the battery hold?

aaa · #3 Post by **aaa** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:36 pm

Between 300 and 400. In the USA, anyways.

#4 Post by **tomh009** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:47 pm

Isn't $400 pretty high (at least in the US), when decent T41s can be found for under $400? Or are T40s worth as much as T41s?

getsandy · #5 Post by **getsandy** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:33 pm

Hi All,

Thanks for reply.

One new question...Is T41 better than T40?

I already have a T41. I am looking for a good used T4x for my brother. Is it better to go for T41 rather than T40?

Thanks
Sandy

lilserenity · #6 Post by **lilserenity** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:44 am

I think the only real significant difference from what I understand between the T40 and T41 is that the T41 has active hard disk protection, ie: shuts off the drive heads when sudden movement is detected. Also I think the T41 uses Dothan processors that have 2MB L2 cache (vs. 1MB in T40), and lower power consumption slightly. if it isn't the T41 that has Dothan, then it's the T42

Either way, there isn't a vast amount of difference as I see it.

Personally the T40 I have of very similar spec to what the original poster is looking for, except I have put another 512MB in, has 802.11b wireless and now a 160GB 5400RPM hard disk. Runs fantastically!

I paid over a little over £200 if I recall correctly. (Which won't translate to USD very well with £1=$2 at the mo)

Vicky

pianowizard · #7 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:31 am

tomh009 wrote:Isn't $400 pretty high (at least in the US), when decent T41s can be found for under $400?

I think $400US is about the average for T40's. Yes, one can find a T41 for under $400 occasionally, but usually they are over $400.

#8 Post by **underclocker** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:50 am

lilserenity wrote:Also I think the T41 uses Dothan processors that have 2MB L2 cache (vs. 1MB in T40), and lower power consumption slightly. if it isn't the T41 that has Dothan, then it's the T42

Dothans started in the T42. T41's had Banias up to 1.7GHz.

Prices for all models T40, T41, T42 overlap. As stated above, you must consider condition, warranty, and specifications. Warranties make a difference, I figure about $10 of value for every month remaining, which is roughly what the warranty cost initially or to extend.

Some well configured, nice condition T40's still sell for over $500. However, a T42 with a 1.5GHz CPU is only slightly different than a T40 with the same spec's and will sell for about the same as a T40, maybe $400.

Currently, non "p" models sell for $300 to $500, "p" models sell for $500 to $1000+. There are, of course, exceptions.

Many people scour eBay for deals or buy flakey or stripped units. Then they say that T4x's aren't worth $400.

A T40 in average cosmetic shape with a 1.3GHz CPU, 40GB 4200 rpm disk, 256MB RAM, no warranty and no wifi (or B wifi), without an AC adapter for $250 is nothing to brag about! After all the upgrades you'll wish you just bought a T42 with some warranty remaining.

The question is, do you have more time or money?!

SHoTTa35 · #9 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:17 am

well my T42 i think should be worth a good amount (upgrades and all, - even worth more now since i got bluetooth thanks to mr underclocker

)

But for a T40 of the specs listed above i would say $350 USD. That is with a SXGA+ screen and average condition and including wireless and a minimum of 1hr of battery life remaining.

I can get a T41 for $450 with much more than that and including some warranty left and even T42s i've seen for $500 (XGA tho)

#10 Post by **tomh009** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:27 am

underclocker wrote:Many people scour eBay for deals or buy flakey or stripped units. Then they say that T4x's aren't worth $400.

I'm no expert -- but, yes, I have seen decent-looking T41s on eBay for under $400, and there were recently five nice T41s for sale on these forums (with new hard disks and 802.11b wireless) for something like $375 each, too.

Temetka · #11 Post by **Temetka** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:58 am

If I were shopping for a T40 for someone these are the specs I would look for:

1.5GHz Pentium M
512MB RAM (1 stick)
40GB HD
CD-RW/DVD Drive
Wifi (b is fine as I have an extra Intel b/g card which would work)
1400x1050 LCD.

Everything else minus the LCD can be spec'd slightly less. I would also be adverse to paying more than $350 shipped for the machine. As far as upgrades are concerned they would in the following order:

80GB 7200RPM drive
512 or 1GB SODIMM
Maybe a Dothan 1.8

I wouldn't spend more than $150 in upgrades bringing the total to around $500. The bonus of using a T40 is that it has the 32MB Radeon card which does not use much power, runs relatively cool and has built in drivers for most OS's.

Heck I can get stripped T40 (no RAM/HD) for around $250 shipped and spend $150 in upgrades and be just fine.

The processor does not really need to be upgraded as the user would see the best speed increase from a 7200RPM hard disk. Following that I would source a cheap 512MB or 1GB SODIMM.

With Linux or XP the box should be mostly fast enough for day to day needs. If you check my sig you will see that I own a monster T41p. You know what? It really is too powerful for what I do. I do e-mail, web, programming (Visual Basic) and light gaming. The most advanced game I run is Star Wars Galaxies followed by Deus Ex and Master of Orion II.

Deus Ex and MOOII will be just fine with a 32MB graphics card.

Since the machine is for your brother, give him your t41, take the money and pick up a T41P or T42 for yourself.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

Just make sure you get him a Thinkpad.

getsandy · #12 Post by **getsandy** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 8:00 am

I really appreciate the response received for all my queries.
This is a great forum.

From beginning only I wanted to buy only IBM Laptop. T41 is my first laptop and i just love it.

Now I will get a good T42p for myself ( if I get for a very good price.)

Will wait for some good bargain.

Thanks again

Sandy

Temetka · #13 Post by **Temetka** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:08 pm

Just an FYI:

T42P's are rare and cost quite a bit in the used market. If you want a p series T4x machine I highly suggest the T41p. It is essentially the same as a T42p. The big difference is the CPU. The T41p uses a Banias core Pentium M processor. This is an excellent chip, quite speedy and relatively cool. The T42p uses a Dothan core Pentium M cpu. The main difference between the 2 is the Dothan chip has 2MB of L2 cache as opposed to 1MB of cache in the Banias CPU.

The good news is that you can pick up a Dothan CPU from e-bay for less then $100 for a 1.7GHz or 1.8GHz Dothan core Pentium M and upgrade the CPU. At that point you would essentially have a T42p. Considering the cost of a T41p and CPU upgrade you are still spending less (usually) than the cost of a T42p laptop.

Food for thought.

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