T41 2379 DJU 1400 x 1050 LCD

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GRBGRB · #1 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:47 am

I have just gotten a T41 2379 DJU and discovered it has a 1400 x 1050 LCD with the ATI 9000 driver. The screen characters are too small. If I change the resolution to the 1024 x 768, it is the right size but fuzzy. I am used to the T41 2372 7FU with the 1024 x 768 monitor and ATI 7500.

If I load the ATI 7500 driver on the 1400 x 1050 monitor will that fix my problem or do I need a different LCD?

Please advise

Jerry

pianowizard · #2 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:57 am

That won't solve the problem; you need a new LCD.

I happen to be looking for a cheap SXGA+ T41. Would you be interested in selling this 2379DJU to me, and then look for an XGA T41? You can keep the optical drive, hard drive and RAM because I don't need them.

SHoTTa35 · #3 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:57 am

You need a different LCD OR just change the DPI in Windows if you can't see the text properly. People like myself love the higher resolution screens because you don't have to scroll so much when compared to XGA screens.

To change the DPI in Windows go to Display Properties - Settings - Advanced - Change to 120DPI or higher. The deault is 96DPI. It might still not be so nice expecially when using some websites but i wouldn't want XGA. Opening my documents folder and maximize the window then do that in XGA (1024 x 768) and see the difference. You can only fit like 5 rows vs 10 or something. The benefit is you spend less time searching by scrolling and all that, you open a window (internet explorer too) and all the information is right there on 1 page.

GRBGRB · #4 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:22 am

Thanks to both of you for answering so quickly. I have tried to change DPI to 120 but it is not optimal to solve the problem. Some people may prefer the small font, but it is a vision problem for me.

I do not want to sell this T41 as parts because it is a very good unit. I just got it off Ebay for $396 plus shipping where it was listed as a 2372 7FU which is a XGA monitor. They sent me this unit instead.

pianowizard · #5 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:32 am

GRBGRB wrote:I do not want to sell this T41 as parts

Does that mean you want to either (1) sell the whole thing and buy an XGA T41, or (2) replace the LCD (plus the appropriate cable and inverter)?

GRBGRB wrote:They sent me this unit instead.

In a way, you're lucky because SXGA+ units are worth more money.

GRBGRB · #6 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:51 am

I guess SXGA may be worth more money, than the XGA, but do not know if that works for my use.

I am trying to decide if I can adjust to the smaller size or if I am too stuck in the 1024x768 mode myself.

GRBGRB · #7 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:53 am

I can return it and get my $$ back as it is not what was listed and it came from a reputable source.

GRBGRB · #8 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:55 am

I do not see the benefit in going through the LCD replacement when I can return the unit. It is an excellent T41 otherwise and looks brand new.

pianowizard · #9 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:59 am

GRBGRB wrote:I can return it and get my $$ back as it is not what was listed and it came from a reputable source.

But you can make some money by selling this unit for say $450.

SHoTTa35 · #10 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:32 pm

I would probably sell off that one and get some good money for it then buy what i'd like or just adjust the fonts to be bigger because even it comes in handy when watching HD videos too.

1280 x 720p is bigger than 1024 x 768 so the image will have to be squished

1400 x 1050 tho can fit 720P so you can watch it with room left over.

Anyways, it's what matters most to you so if you can return it and get a the one you want i guess i'd go that route.

#11 Post by **richk** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:36 pm

Another option: I am also in San Francisco and have good XGA panels available. The SXGA panel you have is worth about $40 - $50 more than an XGA one. I would do the swap free. (I keep the better panel in exchange for the labor), although I couldn't do it before next weekend, as I am away until then. This option might be faster than replacing the machine.

GRBGRB · #12 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:37 pm

That's true. I can probably get more than my investment by selling it. That's why I am trying to figure out whether I want to keep it or not. It is in excellent shape.

It is a T41 2379 DJU still under IBM warranty until 5/08 with the following features:
Pentium M 1.6GHz Processor
512MB RAM
40GB 5400rpm Hard Drive
14.1in TFT LCD
CDRW/DVD COMBO DRIVE
Intel 802.11/b/g Wireless (MPCI)
Modem (CDC)
1Gb Ethernet (LOM)
UltraNav
Secure Chip
6 cell Li-Ion Battery
AC Adapter
Windows XP Professional SP2
Office 2003
No recovery disks

SHoTTa35 · #13 Post by **SHoTTa35** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:42 pm

I'd have the guy above do it since he can replace it right then and there. You might be lucky to find a nice conditioned one with a XGA LCD. The one you have now is a good machine, just change the LCD and you'll be happy in the long run rather than taking your chances on eBay again.

#14 Post by **underclocker** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:41 pm

That T41 is a nice machine with a fast ATI video chipset.

I really like high resolution LCDs but, like some others, I found the SXGA+ on a 14" LCD, a little to small.

As of this weekend, I'm using an R50, with the same spec's of your T41, ATI 9000 video, 1.6GHz, etc., but with a 15" SXGA+ IPS FlexView LCD (a very good IBM option). I think it's the perfect size for 1400 X 1050.

Anyway, you could always sell the T41 and try to find an R50 with the 15" SXGA+ LCD. My model is 1836-3SU, there were a few others.

The R50 uses the same BIOS images, batteries, and has a nearly identical systemboard as the T41.

I am paying a weight penalty though, it's about 1.5 lbs. (this has been updated due to recent weighing) more than a T41 - and thicker, too.

Just wanted to throw out another option...

GRBGRB · #15 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:41 pm

The replacement of the LCD is an interesting offer. The delay is no problem as I am working with this unit currently and seeing how I can or cannot adjust to it.

Jerry

GRBGRB · #16 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:44 pm

I do not know the R50 - thanks for the thought - I will look into this.

Jerry

#17 Post by **richk** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:59 pm

The R50 is a similar machine, although it is thicker and bulkier. I have found that R50/R51 parts are harder to find than T41/T42 parts. As far as the 15" machines, they are a lot bigger and heavier, although for some uses, the size and weight isn't a problem. (I am using a 15" machine right now) 15" parts are much harder to find than 14" pieces.

pianowizard · #18 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:11 pm

GRBGRB wrote:The replacement of the LCD is an interesting offer.

Although it would void the warranty.

GRBGRB · #19 Post by **GRBGRB** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:15 pm

Oops - you are right about the warranty!

pianowizard · #20 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:16 pm

underclocker wrote:I am paying a weight penalty though, it's about a 3/4 lb. more than a T41 - and thicker, too.

The 15.0" SXGA+ R50 with 6-cell battery is about 6.5 lbs, 1.5 lbs heavier than the 14.1" SXGA+ T41. My R50p with QXGA and 6-cell is even heavier, 6.92 lbs.

#21 Post by **underclocker** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:57 pm

pianowizard wrote:
underclocker wrote:I am paying a weight penalty though, it's about a 3/4 lb. more than a T41 - and thicker, too.
The 15.0" SXGA+ R50 with 6-cell battery is about 6.5 lbs, 1.5 lbs heavier than the 14.1" SXGA+ T41. My R50p with QXGA and 6-cell is even heavier, 6.92 lbs.

You may be right! I also have a 14" R51 so maybe I've mixed up the weights. I will weigh it later for confirmation. Either way, I'll take my 2.7 lb. X40 for travel. That is actual weight.

Update: My scale showed the R50 at 6 lbs. 9 oz. (w/optical drive, 1 stick RAM). The T40 weighed exactly 5 lbs. (w/optical and one stick of RAM). The T41p weighed 5 lbs. 2 oz. (w/optical and one stick of RAM). The 14" R51 weighed 5 lbs. 15 oz. (w/optical and two sticks of RAM). All with six cell batteries.

So, a 15" R50 does weigh about 1.5 lbs. more than a 14" T41. (I'll edit my prior post.)

pianowizard · #22 Post by **pianowizard** » Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:05 am

underclocker wrote:The T40 weighed exactly 5 lbs. (w/optical and one stick of RAM).

The Spirit of X21's XGA T40, with optical drive, 6-cell and two RAM sticks, weighs 5.04 lbs.

sktn77a · #23 Post by **sktn77a** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:10 am

I have a T42 with the 1400x1050 native resolution screen. I set it to 1024x768 and then set the display setting for "Cleartype" and it smooths the fonts down just fine. I also do this with a 19" LCD at my work and have never had a problem with the "fuzzies"!

Give it a try!

crashnburn · #24 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 4:15 pm

If nothing else works out, I'll swap XGA LCDs with you.. even if I have to take a minor price hit.

yeohkt · #25 Post by **yeohkt** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:51 am

hohoh, i'm getting a SXGA+ screen as well. first time using a Hi-Res screen compare to normal XGA

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