Trying to get 108mbps w/DLink DI-624 router and IBM a/b/g

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ssdaytona · #31 Post by **ssdaytona** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:14 pm

I don't know what to tell you except that mine shows up as 108mbs.

Those are the correct versions of the ibm driver and atheros client. exactly as mine.

moofy · #32 Post by **moofy** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:53 am

Thanks ssdaytona

Which router or access point do you use on the other side?
Do you know which Atheros chipset is build in?

Mine has a AR5212 chipset and definitely supports 108Mbit mode,
because I use it with PC cards.

Cheers

ssdaytona · #33 Post by **ssdaytona** » Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:28 pm

moofy,

mine is the Neatgear model. I actually don't know which chipset it is.

moofy · #34 Post by **moofy** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:06 pm

ssdaytona,

did you enable TX-Bursting on the Router?

Netgear Super G:
Prosafe(tm) 802.11g AP - Model WG102 Access Point 802.11b/g -G Super G: AR5002AP
108 Mbps Wireless PC Card - Model WG511T PC Card 802.11b/g Super G: AR5002G
108Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter - Model WG311T PCI Card 802.11b/g Super G: AR5002G
108 Mbps WLAN Firewall Router - Model WGT624 Router 802.11b/g Super G: AR5002AP-G
108Mbps Wireless Storage Router - Model WGT634U Router 802.11b/g Super G: AR5002AP-G

Netgear Super AG:
108Mbps WLAN Firewall Router - Model FWAG114 Access Point 802.11a/b/g Super AG: AR5002X
802.11a/b/g Dual Band PC Card - Model WAG511 PC Card 802.11a/b/g Super AG: AR5001X+
Dual-Band WLAN PCI Adapter - Model WAG311 PCI Card 802.11a/b/g Super AG: AR5001X+
Double 108Mbps Wireless Firewall Router- Model WGU624 Router 802.11a+b/g Super AG: AR5002AP-X

Cheers

ssdaytona · #35 Post by **ssdaytona** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 11:46 am

moofy,

I have this model

108 Mbps WLAN Firewall Router - Model WGT624 Router 802.11b/g Super G: AR5002AP-G

I'm not sure if I've enabled it or not. Didn't have to do much to configure the router.

moofy · #36 Post by **moofy** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:45 am

Thank you very much ssdaytona,

Just want to figure out which Atheros router chipsets those of you who got 108Mbit working have.
Would be great if eriqesque, dpb, dmcgibbo, kjarrett could post it.

Also interesting would be which Super G mode you are using. Pls see below. It looks like Super G features names differ from vendor to vendor.

**************************
Disabled - Standard 802.11g support, no enhanced capabilities.
Super G without Turbo - Capable of Packet Bursting, FastFrames, Compression, and no Turbo mode.
Super G with Dynamic Turbo - Capable of Packet Bursting, FastFrames, Compression, and Dynamic Turbo. This setting is backwards compatible with non-Turbo (legacy) devices. Dynamic Turbo mode is only enabled when all devices on the wireless network are Super G with Dynamic Turbo enabled.
Super G with Static Turbo - Capable of Packet Bursting, FastFrames, Compression, and Static Turbo. This setting is not backwards compatible with non-Turbo (legacy) devices. Static turbo mode is always on and is only enabled when all devices on the wireless network are Super G with Static Turbo enabled.
**************************

Cheers

eriqesque · #37 Post by **eriqesque** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:53 am

108 Mbps WLAN Firewall Router - Model WGT624 Router by netgear is the one i use also.

Daver · #38 Post by **Daver** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:59 pm

Netgear WGT624's have had issues with Auto 108 and such in the past. Make sure you have the latest firmware on your router also.

I can't try this myself with my Intel card, so no help there. I have had a WGT624 since they first came out and have seen a lot of bugfixes since.

Also, definitely avoid SMB for this kind of test. Lots of wireless drivers have SMB bugs too. Bad performance, BSOD (that was with Netgear's driver for their WG511T card though)...the whole spectrum of problems.

-Daver

Moogle · #39 Post by **Moogle** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:07 am

I too wonder about this... I've just ordered a 2373-HVU and have found that it uses the first generation IBM a/b/g wireless card... (I think the Atheros AR5001X+?)

I've just looked on Atheros' website ( http://www.atheros.com/pt/ar5001X+.html ) and have found that for 11a & 11g the chip supports a raw data rate of 108mbps - Since Atheros provides most of the other 108mbps chips should this stuff be compatible? And if so, does the newer IBM A/B/G II (Based on the Atheros AR5004X chipset) offer better performance and/or lower power consumption?

I am concerned that I may want to spend the extra money and purchase the newer card... But I don't fully understand the differences - Anybody from Atheros maybe wanna shed some light on this

?

Edit: I've also just noticed that there are two different technologies mentioned: Turbo Mode supported by the 5001X+ and Super AG supported by the 5004x... Are these two compatible? Are they just marketing jargon or actually different technologies?

-Moogle

fbrdphreak · #40 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Sun Jan 02, 2005 7:38 pm

Anyone have a definitive solution to this problem yet?

Also, what's the easiest way to see if my a/b/g card is the first or second gen?

rocky01 · #41 Post by **rocky01** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:53 pm

remove access connections, reinstall latest a/b/g drivers, let windows' wireless connections control your connectivity.

fbrdphreak · #42 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:09 pm

Awesome, thanks.

Daniel · #43 Post by **Daniel** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:57 pm

Connecting at 108 using the built in Windows Manager, did you guys have intermittent connection issues? Using Access Connections, I had no problems but when I switched to the Windows, my connection started dropping often. I'm also using WPA encryption.

brundlefly76 · #44 Post by **brundlefly76** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:40 am

I tried a bunch of Aethos drivers here:

http://www.phoenixnetworks.net/atheros.php

And all I can say is 'thank god for System Restore!!'

The very latest beta drivers really screwed up the system.

Of all the other ones, many worked, but only at 54 mbps with my netgear on auto 108mbps.

I want to point out to everyone that when I first installed this card, windows handled the connection and reported 108mbps - this was *not* the case however - when I timed an FTP transfer over the unloaded network, I observed 54mbps speeds (or, in real terms, 22mbps+)

If you are being told by windows connection manager that you are connected at 108mbps, take that with a huge grain of salt....

fbrdphreak · #45 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Sat Jan 08, 2005 2:40 pm

Anyone thinkin' about maybe having IBM (or Lenovo for that matter) replace out a/b/g 108 cards with a "fixed" model when it comes out? I'm assuming a new mini-PCI card would help alleviate these difficulties, as it might be more compatible & easier to have working drivers for.
My $0.02

atct86 · #46 Post by **atct86** » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:47 am

Will any cards get me 108mbps with my Linksys WRT54GS?

Check this out!!!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

brundlefly76 · #47 Post by **brundlefly76** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:54 pm

fbrdphreak wrote:Anyone thinkin' about maybe having IBM (or Lenovo for that matter) replace out a/b/g 108 cards with a "fixed" model when it comes out? I'm assuming a new mini-PCI card would help alleviate these difficulties, as it might be more compatible & easier to have working drivers for.
My $0.02

Dont hold your breath - none of the SuperG vendors are marketing/supporting SuperG interoperabilty except between paired devices of the same manufacturer.

Becuase of this, you wont see IBM marketing SuperG because they would have to support interoperability with other vendors SuperG equipment, and I wouldnt blame them for not wanting to, since the AP vendors arent on board with supporting other brands.

Remember, for every one of us who are willing to screw around with their system to get things working, there are 100 people who arent and will tie up IBM support, which potentially would cost IBM more then they make on the card sales.

fbrdphreak · #48 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:21 pm

Yeah, that makes sense. When I wrote that, I didn't think of the fact that "SuperG" isn't really an 802.11 standard, so no one has to support it.

atct86 · #49 Post by **atct86** » Tue Jan 11, 2005 1:36 pm

If i put super g aside., What is the best internal card if I want b & G and possibly A?

sktn77a · #50 Post by **sktn77a** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:51 am

I'd go with the IBM a/b/g card.

atct86 · #51 Post by **atct86** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:03 pm

I see that there are two on the ibm site, and even more on ebay.

IS there a difference between the cards?

fbrdphreak · #52 Post by **fbrdphreak** » Thu Jan 13, 2005 12:14 pm

IIRC, there is an a/b/g I/ card and an a/b/g II. Don't know specific difference, but I would venture to say that the II card is better.

yavor · #53 Post by **yavor** » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:18 pm

Well, I really have tried to get 108Mbps but can't seem to get it to work

The setup
Netgear WGU624 (double 108mbps)
Thinkpad t42p
Thinkpad X40 both with the new IBM A/b/G II cards with drivers 4.0.100.140 and otherwise standard Winxp pro from IBM.

Have tried with windows zero config and access connection uninstalled, the router set in auto 108 and a (respective g) only, but it only connects with 48mbps to 54 mbps. Don't get me wrong, range, stability and overall speed are great, I seem to be maxing my Internet connection (10mbps, getting 9,6 in TCP transfers) but win zcfg shows only 54mbps in both a and g networks. Have tried fooling around with HP's atheros utility with no major improvement in speed, even though Super-G and super-A are enabled.

Once again, the ones that have got it working, what did you do?

blackomegax · #54 Post by **blackomegax** » Thu Nov 24, 2005 5:21 pm

ordered an abg II card for my x40 and a WGU624 (netgear)

any new word on these issues?

does the IBM card support stock atheros drivers flawlessly or does it need IBM's?

Herr Yunta · #55 Post by **Herr Yunta** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:01 pm

Stop! You do not need to install or uninstall anything. This works perfectly with the IBM software and driver.

1. Start-run-regedit

2. enter \hkey_local_machine\system\currentcontrolset\control\class

3. find atheros
4. add
1) Name=abolt type=string value=1
2) Name=disableTurboG type=string value=0

You can verify the 108 speed in Access Connections while associated to an equipped access point.

madmatrix · #56 Post by **madmatrix** » Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:27 pm

To:Herr Yunta
You mean just modified the reg table to support for 108Mbps Mode, right? But I can't find Atheros in my reg table. Wierd...
Yours is T42 or T43?

FTC · #57 Post by **FTC** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:36 am

Herr Yunta,

Y've got an atheros 11 abg wireless lan mini pci adapter in my T42, and, even if the 'abolt' and 'disableTurboG' registry entries are there, I am not able to connect at 108Mbps w/a dlink DI-824+ wireless router. I am able to do it from another desktop w/ an USR adapter, so I know the router can do it...

So I am guessing it may be another thing. My current registry looks like :

"ssid"="randomssidtoshutoffautoconnectib"
"gpioPinFunc1"="0"
"scanTimePreSleep"="60"
"capLinkSp"="1"
"Characteristics"=dword:00000084 <<<
"BusType"="5"
"ComponentId"="pci\\ven_168c&dev_1014&subsys_833117ab"
"extendedChanMode"="1"
"ignore11dBeacon"="1"
"radioEnable"="0"
"rateCtrlEnable"="1"
"roamRssiA"="15"
"scanTimeValid"="45000"
"shortPreamble"="1"
"sleepMode"="0"
"tpc"="0"
"TransmitRate11a"="7"
"TransmitRate11b"="3"
"TransmitRate11g"="11" <<<
"InfPath"="oem20.inf"
"InfSection"="XP_DEV_0013"
"ProviderName"="Atheros Communications Inc"
"DriverDateData"=hex:00,80,9f,ef,07,a9,c5,01
"DriverDate"="8-25-2005"
"DriverVersion"="4.1.102.1095"
"MatchingDeviceId"="pci\\ven_168c&dev_1014&subsys_833117ab"
"DriverDesc"="11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter"
"NetCfgInstanceId"="{70362C35-4AAA-443A-A1C9-9A2DAA5E3F1E}"
"CardCfgId"="d1c43147-26aa-41f3-9719-13603a271cab"
"abolt"="1" <<<
"disableTurboG"="0" <<<
"HardwareAddress"="00054E4ED6F1"
"NetBand"="15"

Can you please check if your configuration looks similar ? (specially values marked <<<)

Another thing would be that I'm using access connections ver. 3.81 (not 4.0 yet).

Thanks in advance...

rocky01 · #58 Post by **rocky01** » Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:25 pm

Hello: Has this issue been solved? It would be good to know the Atheros download location and the name of current Atheros Cient software that should be used with the IBM (atheros based) Wireless PCI cards, and confirmation of what to edit in the registry in order to enable 108Mbps with a D-Link AG Router. Thanks for clarifying.

mailww · #59 Post by **mailww** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:09 am

FTC wrote:Herr Yunta,

Y've got an atheros 11 abg wireless lan mini pci adapter in my T42, and, even if the 'abolt' and 'disableTurboG' registry entries are there, I am not able to connect at 108Mbps w/a dlink DI-824+ wireless router. I am able to do it from another desktop w/ an USR adapter, so I know the router can do it...

So I am guessing it may be another thing. My current registry looks like :

"ssid"="randomssidtoshutoffautoconnectib"
"gpioPinFunc1"="0"
"scanTimePreSleep"="60"
"capLinkSp"="1"
"Characteristics"=dword:00000084 <<<
"BusType"="5"
"ComponentId"="pci\\ven_168c&dev_1014&subsys_833117ab"
"extendedChanMode"="1"
"ignore11dBeacon"="1"
"radioEnable"="0"
"rateCtrlEnable"="1"
"roamRssiA"="15"
"scanTimeValid"="45000"
"shortPreamble"="1"
"sleepMode"="0"
"tpc"="0"
"TransmitRate11a"="7"
"TransmitRate11b"="3"
"TransmitRate11g"="11" <<<
"InfPath"="oem20.inf"
"InfSection"="XP_DEV_0013"
"ProviderName"="Atheros Communications Inc"
"DriverDateData"=hex:00,80,9f,ef,07,a9,c5,01
"DriverDate"="8-25-2005"
"DriverVersion"="4.1.102.1095"
"MatchingDeviceId"="pci\\ven_168c&dev_1014&subsys_833117ab"
"DriverDesc"="11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter"
"NetCfgInstanceId"="{70362C35-4AAA-443A-A1C9-9A2DAA5E3F1E}"
"CardCfgId"="d1c43147-26aa-41f3-9719-13603a271cab"
"abolt"="1" <<<
"disableTurboG"="0" <<<
"HardwareAddress"="00054E4ED6F1"
"NetBand"="15"

Can you please check if your configuration looks similar ? (specially values marked <<<)

Another thing would be that I'm using access connections ver. 3.81 (not 4.0 yet).

Thanks in advance...

in abg II, abolt should be 63
however, did you turn on dynamic turbo? try not using static/only turbo first.

jsteele · #60 Post by **jsteele** » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:49 pm

I've tried all these settings and I still don't get 108M. I have a DLink DI-784 router and the type II card with the current drivers and 3.8.1 of the Access Manager.

Trying to get 108mbps w/DLink DI-624 router and IBM a/b/g

Can't seem to get it to work

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