5k 250G from western digital applicable for T43 ?

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citizenNB · #31 Post by **citizenNB** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:40 pm

Hi,

SteveS wrote:Don’t do WinXP install from a generic disk on a T43. Doing so will load the wrong HAL, and some of the features such as power saving drivers and security chip won’t function. Search for “T43 HAL” in this forum for more information.[...]

I installed Windows from the scratch by my self and it works fine for me. Read here for similar experience.

You could also use nlite to build your own special setup CD including all important T43 drivers. Look here for the IBM/Lenovo drivers and software.

Regards,
citizenNB

Cyberbeak · #32 Post by **Cyberbeak** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:54 pm

Thanks for the advice. The only problem is that I don't have a T43 hard drive or installation disk. I searched the forum for T43 Hal and got no hits. Any other suggestions?

sjthinkpader · #33 Post by **sjthinkpader** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 5:47 pm

Cyberbeak wrote:Rats!

Would you happen to know the answer to the other question?

After I install the WD in my T43, I'm wondering if 'cloning' another drive (not from a T43) is likely to work - or do I need to use FDISK, do a clean XP install, and then reload applications from scratch.

Thanks for your help.

T42/R51 and T43/R52 uses different disk image/recovery disk sets. If you move a HDD from T42 to T43, only the TPM update will cause a BSOD. So make sure you uncheck that update in the System Update utility screen. It is recommended to remove the video drive before the move too.

WD are now the only PATA drives in the local retail market. It should work in spite of the 2011 error. I have three of them in use.

citizenNB · #34 Post by **citizenNB** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:19 pm

Hi,

sjthinkpader wrote:[...]
WD are now the only PATA drives in the local retail market. It should work in spite of the 2011 error. I have three of them in use.

You mean the 2010 error.

citizenNB

SteveS · #35 Post by **SteveS** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:48 am

CitizenNB wrote:

I installed Windows from the scratch by my self and it works fine for me. Read here for similar experience

I did the same, and did not have a good experience attempting to run a T43 with the incorrect HAL.

The first symptom I found was that the operating time on batteries was considerably shorter. At the time, I was frequently traveling the same Seattle – Newark plane flight, and attempting to do some productive work during the flight. Running normal office programs (Outlook, Word, and Excel), my battery would last about 4 hours. After the incorrect install, it ran less than 2 hours. Then a clean install from the hidden partition and I was back to 4 hours – all with the same battery.. I had the <2 hour experience three times, so I ruled out forgetting to charge it once. I have on good word from someone who worked on the design team that some of the power saving features in the machine require the “ACPI Uniprocessor PC” HAL to operate properly. Running with another HAL causes these features to run at full power at all times, resulting in shorter battery operating time.

The second problem – which clued me in on the problem – Attempting to install the Lenovo TPM driver results in instant blue screen and hard crash. Other forum members have experienced the same – search for TPM and HAL in the T4x forum.

Prior to attempting to install the Lenovo TPM driver, the machine would occasional blue screen at random times, about twice a week. All of these problems went away when I did the correct install using the hidden partition.

I read that it is possible to force generic windows to install the correct HAL by aborting the AUTORUN routine on the CD, typing a DOS like command line with certain switches set. I don’t know the command syntax, and it was not in this forum. It may be in the Microsoft knowledge base, but it may take quite a while to find it.

It is also either extremely difficult or more likely impossible to change the HAL once windows installs.

You can check the HAL after installation by right clicking MyComputer, then Properties/Hardware/Device Manager/ then expand the Computer entry. If the correct HAL is installed, you will see “ACPI Uniprocessor PC”. If it reads anything else, you are running with the wrong HAL.

#36 Post by **Harryc** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:10 am

I'm from Missouri on this T43 (R52) HAL issue, but here is the procedure being discussed...

How to force a Hardware Abstraction Layer during an upgrade or an installation of Windows XP

citizenNB · #37 Post by **citizenNB** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:21 am

Hi,

SteveS wrote: It is also either extremely difficult or more likely impossible to change the HAL once windows installs.

I don't think so. Unfortunately, I have just a link with a solution described in German. Perhaps Google helps a bit.

Changing the HAL

The translation isn't very good, but I think you get an idea of how it works.

citizenNB

Cyberbeak · #38 Post by **Cyberbeak** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:01 pm

Hi Folks,

I took the advice of others on this thread and purchased the IBM re-installation CDs for the T43. Then I installed a copy of WinXP Pro on a virgin 250 Gb. drive. But, now I'm having trouble booting from the re-installation CD to accomplish the re-installation and get rid of the 2010 error.

I tried booting from the reinstall CD before I installed the WinXP, but I just received the message 'Operating System Not Found'. So I assumed I had to load Windows first.

What am I doing wrong?

TIA

citizenNB · #39 Post by **citizenNB** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:51 pm

Hi Cyberbeak,

you should have seven CDs. Six with a number on it (1 to 6) and one without a number. This is the boot CD. Put this one in your drive, switch on your ThinkPad and push 'F12' while you see the boot screen. In the following menu choose the cd drive to boot from. Well, now you get the Rescue & Recovery menu after a few seconds. The system will ask you for the next CD after some installing steps. You swap the one in your drive with the CD #1. And so on up to CD #6. That's all.

If your ThinkPad has problems with reading the recovery CDs, often it is helpful to copy the original CD set and just use the copies. But ise a CD writer you it works fine.

citizenNB

Cyberbeak · #40 Post by **Cyberbeak** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:19 pm

Dear citizenNB,

You're a lifesaver!! I feel a little stupid asking such a basic question, but I'd rather feel stupid and have a working machine, than clever and have a dead T43.

Thanks again.

Cyberbeak · #41 Post by **Cyberbeak** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:20 am

One last question (I hope).

After going through the entire T43 re-installation procedure (all 7 disks), the PC still boots up with the 2010 error. After that it goes into Windows, but I was under the impression the 2010 error would be gone after I used the re-installation disks. Was I wrong?

citizenNB · #42 Post by **citizenNB** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:24 am

Hi Cyberbeak,

Unfortunately yes. You have to read a little bit more about this stuff. Klick!

citizenNB

SteveS · #43 Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:48 pm

Fixing the 2010 error requires updating the firmware in the hard drive, which is only possible with some drives.
There is quite a bit written on it. Start with this thread which is a sticky on the T40 series page:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=11059

If you are pressed for time, you might want to skip to the last few pages, which have some repeatable success stories.

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