14.1 inch UXGA(1600x1200) on thinkpad!

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doylnea · #31 Post by **doylnea** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:23 pm

crashnburn wrote:many questions

I have a T41 2379DKU. I misposted when I wrote DXU previously.

I don't have any pictures at this time to check the FRU for the inverter, but it's the stock inverter that would have come with a 2379DKU. The video card is a 32mb Radeon 7500 and the original resolution is XGA.

You can see the FRU for the UXGA cable (91P6858) in the photos I've posted.

I purchased the UXGA cable online (by searching for the FRU, after consulting one of the IBM Manuals, and determining what cable was used in the UXGA T41s), and the LCD from PianoWizard. Everything else was standard from the 2379DKU.

Let me know if you have any other questions. I'm not here all that often, but do check in when possible.

crashnburn · #32 Post by **crashnburn** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:23 am

He he.. yes many Qs. Thanks to you and Pw

Pw was probably ticked off at me by now but my pestering had him LINK me to the IBM LCD links.. something I was not aware of..

I'll try to summarize the information as best possible as I slowly decipher laptop LCD dynamics and how they work, evolve with time, models & new technology.

doylnea wrote: Machine: T41 2379DKU.
Video Card - 32mb Radeon 7500
Inverter: Stock - FRU - To be determined
Former LCD Resolution: XGA - Model - TBD

New:
UXGA Cable: 91P6858

I purchased the UXGA cable online (by searching for the FRU, after consulting one of the IBM Manuals, and determining what cable was used in the WXGA T41s), and the LCD from PianoWizard. Everything else was standard from the 2379DKU.

Did you look in the Tabook?
Did you look for cable for WXGA T41s or UXGA T41s? (Just wanted to clarify)

15.0 inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T40/p, T41/p, T42/p

LCD cable assembly XGA
91P6856
LCD cable assembly SXGA+
91P6857
LCD cable assembly UXGA
91P6858

Inverter card, TN XGA
91P7422
Inverter card, IPS SXGA+
93P4161
Inverter card, IPS UXGA
93P4161

LCD panel 15.0-in XGA
Samsung 92P6701 N
LG 92P6699

LCD panel 15.0-in SXGA+
ID TECH 92P6680
LCD panel 15.0-in UXGA
ID TECH 92P6683

14.1inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T40/p, T41/p, T42/p

LCD cover kit Worldwide XGA
13R2569
LCD cover kit Worldwide SXGA+
13R2569
Hinges
All models 91P8388
Bluetooth wireless antenna assembly XGA
13N5515 replaces 91P8385
Bluetooth wireless antenna assembly SXGA+
13N5515 replaces 91P8385

LCD cable assembly XGA
91P6786
LCD cable assembly SXGA+
91P6787

Inverter card All models
26P8464

LCD panel XGA, for T40 series
ID TECH 11P8350
LCD panel XGA, for T40, T41, T42 series
Samsung 11P8352
LG 92P6726 replaces 11P8354
LCD panel 14.1-in. XGA, for T41, T42 series
CMO 92P6675
LCD panel SXGA+, for T40/p, T41/p, T42/p series
ID TECH 11P8346 N
Samsung 11P8348

15 inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T43/p

LCD cable assembly XGA
91P6856 N
LCD cable assembly XGA (RoHS compliant)
91P6891 N

LCD cable assembly SXGA+
91P6857 N
LCD cable assembly SXGA+ (RoHS compliant)
91P6892

LCD cable assembly UXGA
91P6858
LCD cable assembly UXGA (RoHS compliant)
91P6893

Inverter card XGA (leaded)
27K9974
Inverter card XGA (lead-free) (RoHS compliant)
39T0359

Inverter card SXGA+, UXGA
27K9976
Inverter card SXGA+, UXGA (lead-free) (RoHS compliant)
39T0361

LCD panel SXGA+
ID TECH 92P6680
LG 92P6761
LCD panel UXGA
ID Tech 92P6753

14.1 inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T43/p

14.1 XGA (1024x768) and SXGA+ (1400x1050) TFT

LCD cover kit
13R2569
Hinges
All models 91P8388
Bluetooth wireless antenna assembly
91P6897

LCD cable assembly XGA
91P6941 replaces 91P6889
LCD cable assembly SXGA+
91P6942 replaces 91P6890

Inverter card
27K9972

LCD panel XGA
AUO 92P6765 N
CMO 92P6731
HYDIS 92P6733
HYDIS (lead-free) 13N7044
LG 92P6726
Samsung 92P6759
TMD 13N7024

LCD panel SXGA+
HYDIS 92P6737 N
HYDIS (lead-free) 13N7046
Samsung 92P6760

15 inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T60, T60p (1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2613, 2623, 2637)

LCD cable assembly without Bluetooth (15in) - XGA, SXGA+, UXGA
91P6983 R N
LCD cable assembly with Bluetooth (15in) - XGA, SXGA+, UXGA
91P6985 R N

Inverter card (15in) XGA
42T0077 R N
Inverter card (15in) SXGA+/UXGA
42T0079 R N

LCD panel, 15in XGA
Samsung 13N7065 R N
LG-Phillips 13N7067 R N
LG-Phillips, RoHS 13N7090 R N
CMO 13N7069 R N

LCD panel, 15in SXGA+
LG-Phillips 13N7078 R N
BOE Hydis 13N7196 R N

LCD panel, 15in UXGA FFS, BOE-Hydis
BOE-Hydis 13N7076 R N

LCD panel, 15in UXGA FFS (sRGB), BOE-Hydis
BOE-Hydis 13N7194 R N

14.1 inch LCD service parts - ThinkPad T60, T60p (1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1955, 1956, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2613, 2623, 2637)

XGA, SXGA+ Models

LCD cover kit (14.1in)
13N7135
Wireless WAN antenna (14.1in)
91P6988
Wireless WAN blank cover (14.1in)
41V9909
Wireless LAN 3rd antenna (14.1in)
42R9909
Hinge (14.1in)
Kato 41V9901 R N
Reel 41V9902 R N
Hinges (14.1in)
Kato 42R9906 R N
Reel 42R9907 R N
Wireless LAN antenna (14.1in)
LIPC (Hitachi)
91P6986
LIPC (Foxconn)
91P7017
Bluetooth daughter card (BDC-2)
39T0497

LCD cable assembly without Bluetooth (14.1in)
91P6982 R N
LCD cable assembly with Bluetooth (14.1in)
91P6984 R N
Inverter card (14.1in)
41W1010 R N

LCD panel, 14.1in XGA
Samsung 13N7051 R N
CMO 13N7053 R N
BOE-Hydis 13N7055 R N
TMD 13N7057 R N

LCD panel, 14.1in SXGA+
Samsung 13N7059 R N
BOE-Hydis 13N7061 R N
TMD 13N7063 R N

Now I am wondering if cross Series T4x v/s T6x Video Cables and Inverters would be compatible for the relevant SXGA+ & UXGA screens? Any thoughts?

Has the CPU to video to LCD technology changed a lot?
Are the ports / plugs / pins / cables different?

doylnea · #33 Post by **doylnea** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:32 am

My mistake, I posted that (WXGA

) after a long day of work, and then studying. The picture I posted is of the cable I used with my 14.1" T41 and it worked.

From consulting the HMM, the 91P6858 appears to be made for the 15" T series, which would explain why it was longer, and didn't fit neatly into the cover/lcd (and partly why it created the bulge, the other problem being the foam (as shown in the pictures)).

I'm not a Thinkpad aficionado by any means, but I wonder if there is a T41 that came stock with a UXGA. If so, then I'd try to use that cable rather than the one I used.

All that having been said, maybe I just got really lucky that it worked, and that the UXGA didn't burn out my inverter (something about which PianoWizard was concerned).

crashnburn · #34 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:04 pm

pianowizard

3) a 15.0" UXGA Flexview cable with part numbers 91P6836 and 91P6824; it's the same one that came with the 15.0" UXGA R50p and that I have for sale here.

4) The inverter (part numbers 91P7336 and 91P7299) for the above 15.0" UXGA screen. It's also on sale in the above thread. I found that the T42's original SXGA+ inverter also worked.

I tried using the original 14.1" SXGA+ cable, three times, and it didn't work.

pw - I have mapped out all the information possible into a master excel file from all the T4x LCD spec sheets that you pointed me to.

There is a minor discrepancy. In point 3) you have mentioned 91P6836 and 91P6824. I found the former in the R50 LCD specs but was unable to find the latter number. Where did you find "91P6824"?

The same with 91P7336 and 91P7299. I found 91P7336 in the R50 specs but was unable to find 91P7299.

Can you please shed some light on that?

crashnburn · #35 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:31 pm

I've been looking up the different cable & inverter numbers and cross referencing them between the IBM LCD Spec sheets and Pianowizards posts.

I respect his study but I find just 2 part numbers from him that I am unable to cross reference anywhere on IBM site.

PW - Can you please shed some light?

Cable Watch

91P6876 R50 SXGA Cable

91P6836 R50 UXGA Cable
91P6824 - R50 UXGA Cable not in IBM Specs but listed by PW

Inverter Watch
91P7336 R50 Inverter
91P7299 - R50 UXGA Inverter not in IBM Specs but listed by PW

pianowizard · #36 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:22 pm

crashnburn wrote:91P6836 R50 UXGA Cable
91P6824 - R50 UXGA Cable not in IBM Specs but listed by PW

They're identical.

crashnburn wrote:91P7336 R50 Inverter
91P7299 - R50 UXGA Inverter not in IBM Specs but listed by PW

They're identical.

crashnburn · #37 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:55 pm

pianowizard wrote:
crashnburn wrote:91P6836 R50 UXGA Cable
91P6824 - R50 UXGA Cable not in IBM Specs but listed by PW
They're identical.

crashnburn wrote:91P7336 R50 Inverter
91P7299 - R50 UXGA Inverter not in IBM Specs but listed by PW
They're identical.

I figured as much but how did you ascertain those other numbers. What was your reference?

pianowizard · #38 Post by **pianowizard** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:44 pm

Most if not all IBM parts show two part numbers, so I listed both numbers in my "Latest mod" thread. IBM/Lenovo's web site only lists the FRU numbers.

crashnburn · #39 Post by **crashnburn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:03 am

Thanks for the insight. I was unaware.

On the other hand I have been scouting for Inspirons with the LCD screens and recently I came across one who responded with the following:

LCD: 2056 x 1538 pixels
Service Tag 1C3B111

I looked up the Service Tag on Dell Support the parts lookup does not show any LCD / Graphics like the typical laptop lookup (typically shows the LCD type XGA, etc). Am I missing something here?

Was there any LCD with the above screen res available on the Inspiron series. Seems like a QXGA.

pianowizard · #40 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:30 am

crashnburn wrote:LCD: 2056 x 1538 pixels

The guy probably gave you the maximum external resolution supported by this Inspiron 4100.

crashnburn · #41 Post by **crashnburn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:37 am

pianowizard wrote:
crashnburn wrote:LCD: 2056 x 1538 pixels
The guy probably gave you the maximum external resolution supported by this Inspiron 4100.

I keep asking these people for their Dell Inspiron screen resolutions and hope that one of them responds with the UXGA screen. A lot of them are technically not savvy.. plus...

The response I got from one person was around how the screen resolution went to the QXGA numbers but then the MOUSE had to be moved around to see the entire screen. I've seen that happen in some laptops and dont like how it FOOLs the whole screen resolution question.

How could I verify if one of the ebayers genuinely has a UXGA screen?

How could I have them FIND OUT for SURE and tell me that they do?

What should I ask them to do?

I have been asking them for Service Tag information but very few actually show proper LCD values.. some dont show any LCD at all?
Some show Extended Graphics Array (i.e. XGA).. Some SXGA+ and one actually showed Ultra Wide Extended Graphics Array (i.e. UXGA) but by the time the seller responded w Tag and I looked it up the thing was over.

Any thoughts?

crashnburn · #42 Post by **crashnburn** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:57 am

Could I / Should I have them run one of these applications defined here?

Especially PC Wizard 2008? That way it would reveal the actual LCD it has.

I ran it on my Inspiron 9300 and it showed up with

Manufacturer : K9922170WU
Product ID : SEC5557

Could you run PC Wizard 2008 on your machine and post a screenshot or details of how it shows the right LCD Part / Spec / Manufacturer / Model Numbers that I could use to ascertain that my Ebay selle(s) have the same on their machines?

crashnburn · #43 Post by **crashnburn** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:27 am

pianowizard - One question...

I am unable to find your T42 2373-B09 inside any of the older TaBooks.. tawbook, ltwbook, etc. Is that model number correct? What are its specs?

I found Doylnea's T41 in ltwbook.pdf

2379-DKU Pentium M 1.6 512MB 14.1" XGA 7500 40HS Combo 11a/b/g Wi-Fi32 Modem Gigabit Yes 6-cell XP Pro 3 yrs Oct 2003
Some: 14.1" (358.1mm) XGA (1024x768) TFT color / Active Matrix / 150 nits
Some: 14.1" (358.1mm) SXGA+ (1400x1050) TFT color / Active Matrix / 150 nits

Some: ATI® MOBILITY™ RADEON® 7500 / AGP 4X / 32MB DDR1 (DDR-SDRAM)
Some: ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 / AGP 4X / 32MB DDR1 (DDR-SDRAM)
External monitor support via analog DB-15 connector / up to 2048x1536x16.7M at 75Hz

Intel 855PM chipset / 82855PM Memory Controller Hub (MCH-M) /
82801DBM ICH4-M I/O Controller Hub (ATA-100 EIDE, PCI bus, ethernet MAC,
Low Pin Count [LPC] interface, USB, [Bluetooth]) / PCI bus 2.2 32-bit, 33MHz (TI®
PCI4520A CardBus controller, Mini PCI, external expansion) / LPC bus 33MHz
(security chip; PC87392 Super I/O for diskette, parallel, infrared, [docking-based ports])

PW - On your T42 2373-B09 - what video card etc other chip configurations are present?

ajkula66 · #44 Post by **ajkula66** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:09 am

WXGA and UXGA T41s ????

Someone please explain to me what we're talking about here...since T41s only came in 14" format....I believe that this is the part of the problem/confusion...

The materials used, apart from the LCD itself, are from 15" machines (T42/3/p and R50p) and that's where the "length" problem with fitting arises...

pianowizard · #45 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:38 am

crashnburn wrote:pianowizard - One question...

I am unable to find your T42 2373-B09 inside any of the older TaBooks.. tawbook, ltwbook, etc.

You can find the specs on Lenovo.com:

Product: ThinkPad T42 2373-B09 [change]

Original description: Based on 2373-3VU: P M 725, 512MB RAM, 60GB 7200rpm HDD, 14.1 SXGA+(1400x1050) TFT LCD, 64MB ATI Radeon 9600, 24x24x24x/8x CD-RW/DVD, IBM 802.11a/b/g wireless(MPCI), Modem(CDC), 1Gb Ethernet(LOM), UltraNav, Secure Chip, 6 cell Li-Ion battery, WinXP Pro

mjstumpf · #46 Post by **mjstumpf** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:35 am

Could this be done on a t6x series? I've been searching but haven't found anything..

t60p · #47 Post by **t60p** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:20 pm

mike20030405 wrote:http://www.51nb.com/viewthread-573646.html

AHHH!--- This is exactly what I am trying to do, but all the instructions are in Chinese! Could there possibly be a very kind hearted Chinese speaking forum member out there who could translate this page into English for me - I would be forever greatful

t60p · #48 Post by **t60p** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:34 pm

mike20030405 wrote:http://www.51nb.com/viewthread-573646.html

This is exactly what I am looking for, but the text is all in Chinese. Would there possibly be a very kind hearted Chinese/English speaking forum member out there who could translate the text that goes along with these pictures - I would be eternally grateful!

fasterbybike · #49 Post by **fasterbybike** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 1:45 pm

Try Google translator

http://translate.google.com/translate?u ... n&ie=UTF-8

Not exactly plain English

but there are enough pictures to understand what is required.

Quicklite · #50 Post by **Quicklite** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:59 pm

If anyone got any trouble reading the text, feel free to ask...

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