IBM B/G WiFi chipset question

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bhuiyan · #1 Post by **bhuiyan** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:44 am

Hi all,

Some of the most recent batch of ThinkPads are coming with an integrated IBM b/g WiFi card. Which is obviously different than the Intel BG2200. Previous IBM a/b/g WiFi had Atheros Chipset. How can I find out more abot the current one?

Regards

Shoaib

eriqesque · #2 Post by **eriqesque** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:36 am

The new IBM B/G card is also Atheros Chipset.

bhuiyan · #3 Post by **bhuiyan** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 7:32 pm

Eriqesque,

Thanks for the reply. Is it safe to assume that this IBM b/g card is also better supported in linux?

Regards

Shoaib

eriqesque · #4 Post by **eriqesque** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 8:28 pm

That question I will have to defer to someone else as I do not have a lot of expirience with Linux.

dd · #5 Post by dd » Fri Nov 05, 2004 2:45 am

You can get the IBM ABG card working in lInux:

"The Intel 2100 802.11b one is part of the centrino package, and unsupported under Linux. IBM also provides a dual band/two (a/b) and now three modes card (a/b/g), containing an Atheros chipset, and supported by a semi-closed driver, thanks to a binary abstraction layer dedicated to program the radio part of the driver."

Have a google there is lots of info. . . .

RogerBlake · #6 Post by **RogerBlake** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:46 pm

dd wrote:You can get the IBM ABG card working in lInux:

"The Intel 2100 802.11b one is part of the centrino package, and unsupported under Linux. IBM also provides a dual band/two (a/b) and now three modes card (a/b/g), containing an Atheros chipset, and supported by a semi-closed driver, thanks to a binary abstraction layer dedicated to program the radio part of the driver."

Have a google there is lots of info. . . .

Centrino chips DO now have linux support. 2100 support is currently better in that it has rfmon mode which is missing from 2200.

sktn77a · #7 Post by **sktn77a** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:14 am

Anybody have a link to the IBM b/g card (not the Intel b/g/card)? I haven't been able to find it on IBM's site.

eriqesque · #8 Post by **eriqesque** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 10:44 am

AFAIK You can only get the IBM B/G card installed when you purchase a machine. At this point I don't think you can purchase just the card.

brewt · #9 Post by **brewt** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:02 pm

http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/store ... lCurrId=73
or the newer cheaper card:
http://www-132.ibm.com/webapp/wcs/store ... &cntry=840

sktn77a · #10 Post by **sktn77a** » Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:51 pm

Thanks but I've seen the a/b/g card. I was looking for the IBM b/g-only card that people have been referring to.

dpb · #11 Post by **dpb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:57 pm

There isn't a new IBM b/g card. It's IBM's new a/b/g card that is being discussed (and sometimes inaccurately desribed as a b/g card).

eriqesque · #12 Post by **eriqesque** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:34 pm

dpb wrote:There isn't a new IBM b/g card. It's IBM's new a/b/g card that is being discussed (and sometimes inaccurately desribed as a b/g card).

No there is in fact an IBM B/G only card.
It just is not available to purchse alone.
It comes pre-installed on few machines.
My X40 has it.

skanky · #13 Post by **skanky** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:27 pm

eriqesque wrote:
dpb wrote:There isn't a new IBM b/g card. It's IBM's new a/b/g card that is being discussed (and sometimes inaccurately desribed as a b/g card).
No there is in fact an IBM B/G only card.
It just is not available to purchse alone.
It comes pre-installed on few machines.
My X40 has it.

isnt that just a "ibm approved" intel 2200bg card?

eriqesque · #14 Post by **eriqesque** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:19 pm

skanky wrote: isnt that just a "ibm approved" intel 2200bg card?

No, they are 2 seperate cards.

bhuiyan · #15 Post by **bhuiyan** » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:43 pm

Thanks to everyone who has already contributed to this thread. However, I could not still find out even the parts number or ANY related info regarding this new IBM B/G card! how can I find out it's linux support availability then?

#16 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 1:41 am

bhuiyan wrote:Thanks to everyone who has already contributed to this thread. However, I could not still find out even the parts number or ANY related info regarding this new IBM B/G card! how can I find out it's linux support availability then?

TABOOK shows that the IBM 11b/g Wi-Fi is the Atheros AR5004G chipset..

now someone buy a [censored] thinkpad..!
it has been a slow week..!!

eriqesque · #17 Post by **eriqesque** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:31 am

Maybe this will help the OP out
http://www.phoenixnetworks.net/atheros.php

dpb · #18 Post by **dpb** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:24 pm

I've checked again and there is no new IBM b/g card; only the new a/b/g card.

The October TABOOK shows that eriqesque's X40 2371-8LU comes only with the Intel 2200 b/g card or the new IBM a/b/g card.

Cross-checking the Atheros driver sheet that eriqesque provided against the TABOOK listing for the same models shows the same thing: IBM a/b/g only. Atheros just got it wrong.

The TABOOK, which is the most accurate listing of components partis in Thinkpads that IBM publishes, can be found at http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/me.nsf/webdoc ... tabook.pdf

ssdaytona · #19 Post by **ssdaytona** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 6:33 pm

actually,

The X40's come with either the IBM b/g or IBM a/b/g Atheros cards.

eriqesque · #20 Post by **eriqesque** » Fri Nov 12, 2004 8:13 pm

dpb wrote:I've checked again and there is no new IBM b/g card; only the new a/b/g card.

The October TABOOK shows that eriqesque's X40 2371-8LU comes only with the Intel 2200 b/g card or the new IBM a/b/g card.

Cross-checking the Atheros driver sheet that eriqesque provided against the TABOOK listing for the same models shows the same thing: IBM a/b/g only. Atheros just got it wrong.

The TABOOK, which is the most accurate listing of components partis in Thinkpads that IBM publishes, can be found at http://www5.pc.ibm.com/us/me.nsf/webdoc ... tabook.pdf

This is kinda getting out of hand.
But anyway my X40 has an IBM B/G card which consists of the Atheros Chipset.
I don't know what TABOOK you are looking at but the one on the Website states that the 2371-8LU comes with the IBM B/G card NOT THE INTEL ONE.

dpb · #21 Post by **dpb** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:24 am

I stand corrected. The TABOOK says what you say it does. I was looking at the "2373 October" models.

I now have to wonder if and why IBM would make two versions of the identical card, one with 802.11 a turned on and one without.

I'm going to reserve some skepticism until I see the product ID#, which the TABOOK doesn't provide. But that's where this all started....

eriqesque · #22 Post by **eriqesque** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:34 am

According to the parts look-up page this is the FRU# 91P7416

dpb · #23 Post by **dpb** » Sat Nov 13, 2004 4:09 pm

eriqesque wrote:According to the parts look-up page this is the FRU# 91P7416

That helps a lot, but it's still utterly strange. For one thing, in the parts listing for T4x-series, this part has been REPLACED by 93P3475, which is an Actiontec-supplied part, but not replaced in the X and R series. Go figure.

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