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T42 Video running in 1024X768

#1 Post by RodanNJ » Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:19 pm

Hello all I just upgraded from a T23 to a T42. I'm having a major problem with the display settings. When I run the machine at 1400X1050 I feel like I'm going to go blind.

I'm very comfortable viewing the screen at 1024X768, however there is slight fuzz on the display. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so what can I do if anything to remove this ugly haze I'm seeing at this resolution?

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Re: T42 Video running in 1024X768

#2 Post by eriqesque » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:01 pm

RodanNJ wrote:Hello all I just upgraded from a T23 to a T42. I'm having a major problem with the display settings. When I run the machine at 1400X1050 I feel like I'm going to go blind.

I'm very comfortable viewing the screen at 1024X768, however there is slight fuzz on the display. Has anyone else experienced this problem? If so what can I do if anything to remove this ugly haze I'm seeing at this resolution?

Thanks,

Rodan
Basically LCD's run the best in their native resolution. You can tweak some settings and so forth but it will never look as good.
If you just can not stand the SXGA+ 1400x1050 resolution you might just be better off exchanging it for an XGA 1024x768 machine.
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#3 Post by RodanNJ » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:34 pm

Hi and thx for the fast reply. It looks like I either need to get a new pair of glasses or deal with the fuzz!

There is no way I can exchange this machine it's a corpate laptop. I'm sure the best they will do is give me back a T23 until the lease is up this summer.

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#4 Post by level » Fri Nov 26, 2004 7:58 pm

You might want to look at zoom player:

http://www.inmatrix.com/files/zoomplayer_download.shtml

It has a lot of user configurable settings. It's free, unless you want to use it to watch DVDs.

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#5 Post by Nabeel » Fri Nov 26, 2004 9:42 pm

Turn on cleartype, and in the MS XP Powertoys, there's a Cleartype tweak tool, try using that, it might clear out the fuzz, though I haven't tried it myself, a friend said it helped
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#6 Post by RodanNJ » Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:34 pm

Thx for the tip, but that didn't work. I can not believe that IBM sells these laptops with only one clear resolution! That is just insane!

I'm about 5 minutes from smashing this thing with a hammer!

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#7 Post by dash7540 » Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:27 pm

That is the nature of LCDs - they look the best only in their native resolution.

I have and SXGA+ display also; when I first got it...I too thought I was going blind...

I would like to run in in XGA resolution, but again, there is that fuzz, so I'm sticking with the SXGA+. If everything is too small, you can always adjust the font sizes or the DPI (which will increase the size of everything including icons, however the drawback is that some things will look very pixelated.)

Anyways, I wish there was some way for LCDs to look crisp in any resolution, but that technology has yet to exist.
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#8 Post by lfeagan » Sat Nov 27, 2004 1:13 am

RodanNJ wrote:Thx for the tip, but that didn't work. I can not believe that IBM sells these laptops with only one clear resolution! That is just insane!

I'm about 5 minutes from smashing this thing with a hammer!
Uhh...dude, this is not IBMs fault at all. Not to be overly condemning, but it is the fault of whomever bought the notebook for not realizing that they needed to get precisely the resolution they wanted, not above or below it. LCDs aren't like CRTs where they can have virtually unlimited precision (eg infinitely many choices within a finite range). LCDs are literally made up of triads of three rectangles one each of red, green, and blue. Each triad of colors is a "pixel". If you look really really closely (you might also need a magnifying glass) you can see them. In other words, the display on an LCD is discretized. There are a finite number of positions in the vertical and horizontal from which light is emitted. As opposed to the virtually limitless number of points available on a CRT. The only limit to the CRT is how accurately the beam of electroncs can be moved and the bandwidth limitations of the RAMDAC, cable, or other things along the chain.

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#9 Post by aleung » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:09 am

well well well.. I used my friend A23 (1600x1200) before i bought my T30 (1400x1050). When I look at 1600x1200 in 15" I think i am blind.. But after I bought my T30. I love that native resolutions and used to it. I am getting T42p with 1600x1200. I think I can get used to it.. I am wearing glasses. Don't complain if your glasses prescriptions is not right ;)

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#10 Post by Elhabash » Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:11 pm

My 14.1" 1400*1050 display is hard on me without any glasses, but I just love the brilliant picture. All other displays look a little like old times to me now...
The only thing I can complain about is that still so many applications (including WinXP) are optimized for the old fashioned lower resolutions. This would be no problem at all if you could adjust something like "object size" that makes everything larger globally, while keeping the beautiful fine structures and round curves.
But I guess this would involve some really major tweaking... :roll:
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#11 Post by Ghostrider » Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:19 pm

Elhabash wrote:My 14.1" 1400*1050 display is hard on me without any glasses, but I just love the brilliant picture. All other displays look a little like old times to me now...
The only thing I can complain about is that still so many applications (including WinXP) are optimized for the old fashioned lower resolutions. This would be no problem at all if you could adjust something like "object size" that makes everything larger globally, while keeping the beautiful fine structures and round curves.
But I guess this would involve some really major tweaking... :roll:
MS is building some kind of update that should replace gdi, directX and some other stuff and should change the whole WindowsXP surface to a vector based GUI. This would also include the ability to scale EVERYTHING to the size you want at a fixed resolution. :) Well, I read it in an article some days ago. It was not planned for XP - just for "Longhorn" but they changed their mind. Until now MS just send code samples to other companies to evaluate and optimize the code... so it'll take some time before this update will hit the market. But I hope that it will come. Would be great for all high-resolution displays.
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#12 Post by RodanNJ » Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:46 pm

I wanted to give you folks an update on my first post. I have been using this machine in 1400X1050 with LARGE fonts.

I do have to say that my eyes have gotten use to this good looking screen and all is good.

Thanks for the support...

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#13 Post by Kenn » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:24 pm

RodanNJ wrote:I wanted to give you folks an update on my first post. I have been using this machine in 1400X1050 with LARGE fonts.

I do have to say that my eyes have gotten use to this good looking screen and all is good.

Thanks for the support...
I was going to suggest that as a quick fix. Also, many who first run high resolutions say they're going blind, but after a few weeks they get used to it and can't stand going back to 1024x768 :) You'll be OK. 14x10 is vastly more useful than 10x7.
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#14 Post by JohnDrake » Sat Dec 11, 2004 6:29 pm

You can tweak font size and font DPI settings to make it "right" for you. Do not turn on Clear Type on a Thinkpad (directly digitally driven) LCD display...it will only fuzz things up more, not less. Good for CRT's, bad for digitally driven (as opposed to analog connected) LCD's.

I would run it at native 1400x1050 with adjusted font size and DPI settings.

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