Who needs recovery CD's?

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Who needs recovery CD's?

#1 Post by naflanagan » Thu Dec 02, 2004 5:21 pm

Called IBM for recovery CD's. They said $45. I said NO.

I have a thinkpad T30 running win2k. I have a 20GB hard drive and I want to dual boot. The recovery partition takes about 2 GB of space. Here is my idea.

Boot with Knoppix cd and run partimage from the root shell. Make an image of your freshly installed OS partition. In my case, I had to mount an NFS on another computer and store the image there. I will also try to make an image of the recovery partition.

You can also use Norton Ghost to make images. With Ghost, you can burn the image directly to CD. Since I don't have a cd burner in my thinkpad, I have to use partimage and NFS.
Anyone ever try this. I'll let you know if it works
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#2 Post by naflanagan » Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:47 pm

It works.
Using partimage I can make an image using medium compression in 2 ~650MB files. Then burn them to CD's. Next time I need to restore, just boot into Knoppix, mount CD #1, and restore the image using partimage. Now I can free up the recovery partition.

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#3 Post by jdhurst » Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:16 pm

The T30 uses a Hidden Partition. T4x's (at least my T41) use a PreDesktop Area which is different. You can still use Partition Magic to reduce the initial partition and create a new one. I don't know if PM will save off the PDA. Each person will make their own decision of course (and I got my recovery CD's for free), but I think I would pay the $45 as a good investment in my machine. ... JDHurst

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#4 Post by mytp » Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:23 am

JDHurst, What were the magic words you used to get IBM to send you the recovery CD's for free?

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#5 Post by lvlolvlo » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:29 am

mytp wrote:JDHurst, What were the magic words you used to get IBM to send you the recovery CD's for free?
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Re: Who needs recovery CD's?

#6 Post by Aramitz » Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:15 pm

naflanagan wrote:Called IBM for recovery CD's. They said $45. I said NO.

I don't know for USA but in France IBM GIVES the CD >>>1 month after the purchase (the sending is free) :)

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#7 Post by jdhurst » Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:53 pm

I don't know if this works any more (IBM changed their policy), but I always just said the Hard Drive had to be replaced. ... JD Hurst

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#8 Post by naflanagan » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:49 pm

I saved my recovery partition even though I have a 20 GB hard drive and I'm dual booting Linux and Windows. But I made a backup image of the recovery and windows partition. I think restoring the image would be easier and also quicker than using IBM recovery. I made the image of windows 2000 imediately after installation so all drivers, etc. installed. The windows image fit nicely on 3 CDRs and the recovery partition on 2 CDRs.

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#9 Post by aleung » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:07 pm

so. ghost will not work with predesktop area?

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#10 Post by rhema83 » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:20 pm

I thought the CDs can be made with a certain preloaded program?

Anyway if you have the computer in factory settings, you can use a tool like AutoStreamer to make a slipstreamed Windows XP Pro CD from the I386 folder on your hard disk. Then just back up the non-downloadable software installation files, download latest drivers and burn them onto a CD, and proceed with re-partitioning.
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#11 Post by zzyss » Sun Dec 05, 2004 8:26 pm

The recovery CDs are available free within the first 30 days of purchase. After that, you will have to pay for them. It seems like your method works just fine anyway, so no problems!
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#12 Post by gcchatel » Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:13 pm

Rhema83, that feature is only available since the T42, before that you could just load from the partition. The T42's allow to create the recovery CD's which is a nice feature.
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#13 Post by d lehmann » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:21 pm

If you can make backup cd's from the i386 folderwhere is the cd key etc needed for activation?
Do you just copy the folder nto cd's?

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#14 Post by aleung » Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:27 pm

zzyss wrote:The recovery CDs are available free within the first 30 days of purchase. After that, you will have to pay for them. It seems like your method works just fine anyway, so no problems!
that's how i got my recovery CD from IBM( my old T30). they said IBM no longer give it out the recovery CD

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#15 Post by skanky » Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:10 am

gcchatel wrote:Rhema83, that feature is only available since the T42, before that you could just load from the partition. The T42's allow to create the recovery CD's which is a nice feature.
actually i think you can create them by installing the latest rescue and recovery and there should be an option to create recovery discs in the access IBM start menu folder.

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#16 Post by blitzs » Tue Dec 07, 2004 8:16 am

d lehmann wrote:If you can make backup cd's from the i386 folderwhere is the cd key etc needed for activation?
Do you just copy the folder nto cd's?
read the sticky in this forum, it shows u how to create a bootable xppro installer, great guide :)

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