Atheros 802.11 a/b/g vs Atheros Atheros 802.11 a/b/g II???

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jcentrel · #1 Post by **jcentrel** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:13 am

I finally bought a new T42P (2372-N37) which ships with an Intel b/g wireless card. I want to upgrade to the atheros chipset and would like to know if anyone has an opinion on the existing 802.11 a/b/g TriBand Mini-PCI (P/N #31P9701, FRU 91P7301) vs. the new 802.11 a/b/g TriBand Mini PCI II(P/N 73P4301, FRU 93P4262)? The new card is less expensive and I was wondering if it's worth it to get the first generation card for more money? Are there any benefits to either card? Thanks.

gcchatel · #2 Post by **gcchatel** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:58 am

I have the old generation a/b/g card. So far, I love it, it always connects and stays connected. The only problems I have had have been network related and not card related. I have never used the new generation card so wouldn't know what to say about that, but you won't be dissappointed with the old one.

Hope this helps,

Gael

Moogle · #3 Post by **Moogle** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:58 pm

I too am wondering about this... After debating between a 2373-Q1U and -HVU, I settled on the HVU and a savings of $500.

However I just realized that the HVU comes with the first generation Atheros card.... Are there any bad implications about this? Does anybody know if the older card supports 108mbps? (I don't have any 108mbps gear, And I don't have any 11g gear either... But I'll hold off and get the 108 stuff if I know the laptop will support it...)

Thanks!

-Moogle

ssdaytona · #4 Post by **ssdaytona** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:07 am

well, i've noticed that I can't enable the 2nd gen to utilitize channels 12 and 13 of the 802.11bg frequencies.

vincepoy · #5 Post by **vincepoy** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:44 pm

What model of the Atheros chip does each one use because one has the Extended Range if it's the 5004 family.

ssdaytona · #6 Post by **ssdaytona** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:53 pm

XR or extended range is available in the newer 2nd gen AR5004X+ chipset.

I meant extended channels for use in Europe and Japan.

Merlyn_3D · #7 Post by **Merlyn_3D** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:05 pm

I just ordered one of the second generation minipci ones. It was $70 total from IBM with free second day shipping, can't beat that. Only snag is I have a T30 so I'll probably have to use the 1802 patch. Has anyone done this before? I also have a linksys WRT54G wtih the sveasoft firmware, which is great cuz it enables afterburner for free!

ssdaytona · #8 Post by **ssdaytona** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:57 pm

ahh,

different chipsets. Linksys uses broadcom, while IBM's is Atheros.

Merlyn_3D · #9 Post by **Merlyn_3D** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:39 am

Both chips are supposed to be pretty good, though. The linksys router is awesome. I love that it runs open source linux for firmware.

ssdaytona · #10 Post by **ssdaytona** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:09 pm

I too have the Linksys WRT54GS. I enabled channels 12 and 13 on my router and was able to take advantage of this on the 1st gen IBM WiFi card. However, the 2nd gen card can't seem to use the extended channels.

The best way to to protect your wireless network is by preventing others from evening communcating with your router. Not many WiFi cards can access channels 12 and 13 is the USA.

jsteele · #11 Post by **jsteele** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:32 pm

ssdaytona wrote:...
Not many WiFi cards can access channels 12 and 13 is the USA.

Yes, but not many US Wifi cards access Ch 12/13 for a good reason: Ch 12/13/14 are not legal in the US so using them is a violation of FCC regs.

Leon · #12 Post by **Leon** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:38 pm

well, so far we know the new card can't do extended channels.... is there any ADVANTAGE to the second generation card?

Merlyn_3D · #13 Post by **Merlyn_3D** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 1:55 pm

Leon wrote:well, so far we know the new card can't do extended channels.... is there any ADVANTAGE to the second generation card?

Someone mentioned earlier that they have extended range. Reception's supposed to be pretty good. Plus they're only $70 shipped direct from IBM (that's 2nd day shipping too)

Leon · #14 Post by **Leon** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:16 pm

price is better.. can anyone verify that the range is substantially better than Gen 1?

CChoi83 · #15 Post by **CChoi83** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:45 pm

Any other differences? I too am deciding whether to replace my 2200BG in my 2379-R9U to a Atheros chipset but I'd like to know all the facts. On IBM's website, they both seem pretty similar besides the omition of Channels 12 and 13. Other than that, they seem the same. Anyone else have more facts?

atct86 · #16 Post by **atct86** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:52 am

I have WRT54GS router and a T40 with a Cisco 802.11b card in my T40.

What are the beniftis with each of the IBm cards regarding my setup.

tpman · #17 Post by **tpman** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:10 pm

I am looking to purchase the IBM A/B/G II card,
can anyone with first hand experience who
has used both cards confirm that the reception
is any better then the first generation IBM A/B/G?

Thanks in advance

jcentrel · #18 Post by **jcentrel** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:31 pm

I recently replaced my B/G card with the new model Atheros card and I don't notice any difference at all (except for the fact that I can now connect to an 802.11a network).

dfumento · #19 Post by **dfumento** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:27 pm

In the tabook the new T43s either come with new Intel wireless chip or the IBM II chip with the AR5004X chip set.

Leon · #20 Post by **Leon** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:41 pm

apparently they don't plan on selling that card world-wide if it omits those channels...

Atheros 802.11 a/b/g vs Atheros Atheros 802.11 a/b/g II???

Atheros 802.11 a/b/g vs Atheros Atheros 802.11 a/b/g II???

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