ETA on 80GB 7200 RPM drives?

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DentdHalo · #1 Post by **DentdHalo** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:12 pm

Anyone heard any rumours on when these should be available?

I was hoping with the announcement of the T43p in January that an 80GB 7200 rpm drive option would be available, but I guess not.

thnks

gerry0601 · #2 Post by **gerry0601** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:25 pm

Anybody can tell me what is the difference between this new HD AND 7K60??

DentdHalo · #3 Post by **DentdHalo** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:31 pm

Can nybody tell me what is the difference between this new HD AND 7K60??

20 more gigs?

#4 Post by **jdhurst** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:31 pm

20Gb. I think I would go for one unless the 100Gb 7200rpm drive is also soon on the horizon. ... JD Hurst

gerry0601 · #5 Post by **gerry0601** » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:39 pm

the performance is same?

JHEM · #6 Post by **JHEM** » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:44 am

DentdHalo wrote:Anyone heard any rumours on when these should be available?

The scuttlebutt for a while has been that the 7K HDs will leapfrog to 120GB with no intermediate progressions, probably based on perpendicular recording.

Look for an 80GB 1.8" HD for your iPod to be announced early next year!

Regards,

James

w0qj · #7 Post by **w0qj** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:17 am

1. sources say hitachi plan to come up with SATA II (with NCQ-Native Command Queque) 2.5"" hard drive "by end of 2004".
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/storage/di ... 35023.html
no idea if this will include 7200RPM models.

hopefully they will be ready in Q1 of 2005?

2. seagate also in past few months stated they "plan to introduce by end of 2004" 7200RPM notebook hard drives.

so hopefully early next year there will be some competition in the 7200RPM notebook HDD market to bump up the storage capacity.

3. one review rated Hitachi's new 5K100 "almost same speed" as the 7K60. (reviewer used E5K100, which is basically same as 5K100).

http://hi-techreviews.com/nuke/hitachi3/page3.htm

CONCLUSION:

The letter 'E' the E5K100 drive name must mean Extreme fast, because that is exactly what this drive is. Then you take a fast drive and give it an 8 MB cache and you end up with a hard drive that is truly a performance booster. So much so that adding this drive to my HTPC made the system respond so much faster that it acted as if it had been given a 500 MHz faster processor. but it will also make the average laptop user very happy knowing that their computer will not have the life drained from it as most other hard drives do while it works.

Acoustically this drive is far superior to any 2.5" we have used in our HTPC setup. Surprisingly before the loudest thing in our system had been the hard drive, but with the addition of E5K100 the noise is gone and the system is now 100% silent. So if you're looking for an upgrade for your Mini-ITX system or your laptop this is a definite hard drive to consider.

If you're in the market for a fast laptop drive or drive to put into your mini-ITX system like we were, then this drive should be given a very long look. One additional benefit of choosing this particular drive is the fact that it can be purchased as either a P-ATA or S-ATA drive. Combine that with its huge 8 MB cache and you end up with a drive that will provide you excellent service. Hitachi's 3-year warranty will also give you that little extra bit of comfort we all like to have knowing that sometimes parts do fail.

TESTING

While the E5K100 is designed for use in laptop computer...
...
As a comparison we have added two benchmarks for the Hitachi 7K60 hard drive which I have been using for a about a year now. The thing that is so striking about the two drives is they are the size, both have 8 MB buffer but the 7K60 has a spindle speed of 7,200 rpm whereas the E5k100 is only rated at 5,400 yet it still come very close to matching the numbers produced by the faster drive.

Test Setup
* i845GVD motherboard
* 512 MB PC-3200 DDR
* Intel Extreme Graphics
* Hitachi E5K100 Hard Drive

#8 Post by **BillMorrow** » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:26 am

the "E" means the HDD is for "Extended" use..
i.e. 24/7 rather than 9/7 (or whatever the duty cycle is)..

zzyss · #9 Post by **zzyss** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:07 am

But what does that translate to in terms of performance? Would the E-less version basically perform the same, but with a lower MTBF and/or less warranty? I'm still very eagerly awaiting for any of these drives (including the 7K80) so that I can finally upgrade my craptacular 80GB 4200rpm. It is seriously the worst part of my T40, bogging down everything.

#10 Post by **erik** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 2:20 am

zzyss wrote:But what does that translate to in terms of performance? Would the E-less version basically perform the same, but with a lower MTBF and/or less warranty? I'm still very eagerly awaiting for any of these drives (including the 7K80) so that I can finally upgrade my craptacular 80GB 4200rpm. It is seriously the worst part of my T40, bogging down everything.

over the summer i installed a 40gb E7K60 in my s30 and replaced the stock 4200rpm 40gb DJSA-220. start-up time was literally cut in half and now averages 40~45 seconds. overall access times were sped up so much that you'd think the processor was easily twice as fast.

hdd access, latency, and rpm are all major factors in your thinkpad's overall speed. for 4200rpm drive owners, i'd recommend an hdd upgrade well before a processor upgrade.

-erik

#11 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 4:48 am

just get a 60gig 7200RPM drive..
the E just means its spec'ed for continual use..
look up the spec yourself..
i did months ago and all i could learn at that time was the E drive was the same as the S drive except for a very tiny increment of higher power use and the 24/7 duty cycle..
E or S, makes no diff as to speed..

zzyss · #12 Post by **zzyss** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:07 am

I've been agonizing over whether to get the 60GB drive for a while now, but so far the answer has been a steady "no" due to the fact that I can't migrate my data across smoothly. Reason being the 80GB => 60GB conversion just Isn't Going To Work. (I'd like to have the hidden partition on the new drive as well).

#13 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:22 am

then your only solution is to wait..

though the 80gig 5400 is pretty fast..

Volker · #14 Post by **Volker** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:05 am

zzyss wrote:I can't migrate my data across smoothly. Reason being the 80GB => 60GB conversion just Isn't Going To Work.

Solution: Get a hdd ultrabay adapter and stick your 2nd harddrive in there :-) And yes, you can store more DVD's on a 80 gig drive than you'd be willing to carry with you while travelling.

#15 Post by **erik** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:32 am

morrow wrote:just get a 60gig 7200RPM drive..
the E just means its spec'ed for continual use..
look up the spec yourself..
i did months ago and all i could learn at that time was the E drive was the same as the S drive except for a very tiny increment of higher power use and the 24/7 duty cycle..
E or S, makes no diff as to speed..

oh, no doubt there, but the 40gb E7K60 is the only way to get a 7200 rpm drive in 40gb capacity from hitachi. 60gb would have been overkill as there is maybe 6~8gb of apps/data on it right now.

-erik

matty · #16 Post by **matty** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:55 pm

this is a great article on whats to come and whats out right now...
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041213/index.html

2.5" Serial drives on the way.

#17 Post by **BillMorrow** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:10 pm

the 40gig 7200RPM drive is good too, but for the price diff i always go with the larger capacity..

w0qj · #18 Post by **w0qj** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:09 pm

matty wrote:this is a great article on whats to come and whats out right now...
http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041213/index.html

2.5" Serial drives on the way.

yeah, but this review did not even review Hitachi 5K100 which has been out for 2 mths now.

i was REALLY hoping some credible reviewer can confirm the 5K100 is almost as fast as 7K60, and then i'll buy it. (unfortunately my 5K40 that came with my T42s is almost full--can't wait for 7K80 or 7K100). ;(

zzyss · #19 Post by **zzyss** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 7:07 am

w0qj wrote:yeah, but this review did not even review Hitachi 5K100 which has been out for 2 mths now.

It has? I was under the impression that it wasn't going to be out until either 1Q or 2Q 2005. It would be absolutely fantastic if I were wrong, so please show me!

Rose · #20 Post by **Rose** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 8:18 am

zzyss wrote:
w0qj wrote:yeah, but this review did not even review Hitachi 5K100 which has been out for 2 mths now.
It has? I was under the impression that it wasn't going to be out until either 1Q or 2Q 2005. It would be absolutely fantastic if I were wrong, so please show me!

ive been looking everywhere of where to get hold of that hitachi 5k100. Nowhere!! Not a single suplier. It is not available yet.

So i bought A momentus 100gb 5400.2 instead. I had no time to wait longer.

w0qj · #21 Post by **w0qj** » Sat Dec 18, 2004 9:17 am

Rose wrote:
zzyss wrote:It has? I was under the impression that it wasn't going to be out until either 1Q or 2Q 2005. It would be absolutely fantastic if I were wrong, so please show me!
ive been looking everywhere of where to get hold of that hitachi 5k100. Nowhere!! Not a single suplier. It is not available yet.

So i bought A momentus 100gb 5400.2 instead. I had no time to wait longer.

hmm...vaporware...interesting...

thought only we in Hong Kong cannot get our hands on this Hitachi 5K100... guess same elsewhere too for now...

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