A new T42 for me and a return to thinkpads

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A new T42 for me and a return to thinkpads

#1 Post by Temetka » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:51 am

So I was working with a forum member on a T41 deal, however a last minute craigslist deal came though providing me with a new T42 for a purchase price of $225.

It is a 2373-6YU unit with an XGA screen and the Radeon 7500. It is pretty stock except for the hard drive. Fry's Electronics had a 160GB WD drive on sale for $59. This is a 5400RPM 8MB cache model and while it's not 7200RPM it is very speedy.

I will be inquiring in the next few months for info on LCD upgrades and whats required. I might also pick up a 1.8GHz CPU not for the extra 100MHz but for the extra 1MB of L2 cache which comes in handy.

So far I have found the system to be pretty responsive under load. So a few general upgrades to round her out and it will be a great backup machine to my Powerbook G4.

I will also be getting an ultraybay hard drive unit so I can run dual hard drives. This would grant me 280GB of storage between the 2 drives. Since the optical drive is used for loading software only it won't be used on a daily basis.

I would also like to pick up a new 9 cell battery and possibly one of the ultrabay batteries as well.

Does anyone know if a mobo upgrade to the R9000 and 64MB of VRAM decrease battery life? Just curios.

Well expect more posts as the machine and I settle in together. It's pretty good so far and considering my excellent experiences with the T41p I used to own (specs in sig) the performance (minus graphics) is roughly equal. That machine started out as a stock T41p and was heavily upgraded. I won't be going that extreme with this machine.
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Re: A new T42 for me and a return to thinkpads

#2 Post by underclocker » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:16 am

Temetka wrote:I will be inquiring in the next few months for info on LCD upgrades and whats required. I might also pick up a 1.8GHz CPU not for the extra 100MHz but for the extra 1MB of L2 cache which comes in handy.
Congrats on the purchase, sounds good.

Your CPU, Pentium M 735 1.7GHz is a Dothan model with 2MB of cache. The T41's were offered with Banias 1.7GHz that had 1MB of cache. Use that upgrade money somewhere else!
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#3 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:29 pm

Welcome back to the ThinkPad Owners Society!

I had an exact same T42 a couple of years ago and it was a sweet machine, however, I couldn't tolerate the XGA aspect of it, so it grew legs...

You will lose some battery life (and gain some heat as well) going up to board with Radeon 9600.

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#4 Post by awolfe63 » Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:17 pm

Used T42's have become so cheap that I don't think it is worth upgrading a motherboard or LCD. Buy a new one with the MB/LCD you want. Move the HD/optical/battery/keyboard if you want (very easy). You can also move the DRAM/CPU without much work. Sell what's left as a complete machine. You will come out much better that trying to swap internal parts.
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#5 Post by Temetka » Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:21 pm

When I bought my T41p a long time a go it was bloody expensive because it was a p model. The CPU upgrade was around $189 or so and at the time 1GB PC2700 was slightly over $100 a stick.

I am still in that frame of mind as far as price goes for parts. I forgot the T42's are Dothan's so no worries there. Still might do a panel swap for the heck of it as XGA is bothering me, but not overtly so.

I forgot how nice thinkpads are. I had a Dell D500 I was using for a while but it developed random shutdown issues and since it was a freebie, it's been set aside for parts.

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#6 Post by schen » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:19 pm

Just to weigh in on what the current costs are on some upgrades. I did the RAM upgrade to 2 1Gb (Corsair) sticks for $40ea after a Micro Center $30ea rebate. Fry's often has similar deals. I picked up a complete SXGA+ T41p panel/assembly with Bluetooth antenna for $50 on eBay, so I also addded the BT CDC for around $20 (also used the opportunity to pick up an extra A/C adapter from the same eBay seller for $10 and no additional shipping). I moved over my 7200rpm Travelstar from my previous machine, but caught a WD 250Gb 5400rpm HDD at the same Micro Center sale for my wife's R51 for $90 (no rebate needed).

So there you have it, fairly recent prices from typical retailers within the last 2 weeks.
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#7 Post by Temetka » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:28 am

I am aware of pricing for those general upgrades.

However I have a 15" LCD as opposed to a 14.1" such as you have.

Later on I am going to do some research on what 1600*1200 panels work in this unit. Then I might go for a mobo upgrade to get the better video chip (R9000 or FireGL).

Other than that, I will take the same route tup upgrades as I did with my previous T41p. However I don't think I'll go in for a CPU upgrade unless it's less than $100 and greater than 1.8GHz otherwise it's kind of a waste of money considering the nominal performance increase I may or may not notice.
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#8 Post by pianowizard » Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:29 am

Temetka wrote:However I have a 15" LCD as opposed to a 14.1" such as you have.
Excellent! If I remember correctly (it's been a while) you can upgrade to a 1600x1200 IPS screen even without replacing the mobo, but do some more research first. I think I wrote several posts that are relevant to this topic.

But I agree with others that it's not worth upgrading too much. If you really need a T42 with the best possible specs, you should sell this T42 for ~$300 to make a profit, and then get a nice T42p.
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#9 Post by Temetka » Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:01 pm

I somehow thought and LCD upgrade might grab your attention o king of the lcd mod.

This is something I plan to look into later on along with pricing a T42/p out. I still want the 15" LCD though.
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#10 Post by schen » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:18 am

pianowizard wrote:
Temetka wrote:However I have a 15" LCD as opposed to a 14.1" such as you have.
Excellent! If I remember correctly (it's been a while) you can upgrade to a 1600x1200 IPS screen even without replacing the mobo, but do some more research first. I think I wrote several posts that are relevant to this topic.

But I agree with others that it's not worth upgrading too much. If you really need a T42 with the best possible specs, you should sell this T42 for ~$300 to make a profit, and then get a nice T42p.
As soon as I read the "upgrade LCD" and 15" part, I thought; maybe you should check out what pianowizard has done over in the A/R/G Conference! Some truly amazing stuff, although, I must say that after seeing a 15" SXGA+ Flexview on my wife's machine has been almost a "religious experience", so I can't even imagine what some of his machines look like!
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#11 Post by Temetka » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:47 pm

Yeah I love his mods.

Later down the road when I get the cash I just might buy a preset LCD from him to save me the time and trouble.

After all if I am going to upgrade the LCD why not go for broke? (figuratively speaking of course).
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