T43 Purchasing Question

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T43 Purchasing Question

#1 Post by Kanilas » Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:28 pm

Hi all, After my T30 met an untimely end due to the Blink of Death, I decided to upgrade to a T43. I bought one, with certain specifications. When I got it, however, instead of the promised 64MB X300, I got the 128 MB Intel 915 card, and an XGA screen, instead of the promised SXGA. Talking to the seller, they've been very accommodating so far, however now they claim they talked to Lenovo, and say all T43's come with a maximum of resolution 1400 x 1050. I'm 99% positive that's not true.... but can you help me find the information to prove this to him?

The machine type I have is 1871-4AU

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#2 Post by sjthinkpader » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:27 pm

Unless you will be using the machine for games, the intel GPU boards are more reliable that ATI boards. It will drive a SXGA+ LCD without any problems. You may want to find a fan with the tail designed for the GPU included Northbridge chip.

14.1 inch versions only go to 1400x1050 (SXGA+). 15 inch versions have UXGA and QXGA (kit only) resolutions.
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#3 Post by Kanilas » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:31 pm

sjthinkpader wrote:Unless you will be using the machine for games, the intel GPU boards are more reliable that ATI boards. It will drive a SXGA+ LCD without any problems. You may want to find a fan with the tail designed for the GPU included Northbridge chip.
No, it's not going to be a gaming machine. I have my desktop rig for that. :) What do you mean about the fan?

However, the seller was offering a partial refund due to this discrepancy in the supplied information, to what the actual product was. I looked on the IBM website, and I found that the parts listing for mine had an XGA screen... But is there any information about what model numbers had XGA and which had SXGA screens?
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#4 Post by sjthinkpader » Sat Sep 27, 2008 2:49 pm

14.1 inch version with intel GPU might not had the SXGA+ option.

The 15 inch versions should have SXGA+ option. I have an 1860-4QU R52 that is like this from the factory and converted an 1860-W2A R52 to SXGA+.

The intel GPU versions use a special long fan that provides cooling to the GPU included Northbridge. There are several versions to fix T43 and R52s equipped this way.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
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#5 Post by Kanilas » Sat Sep 27, 2008 3:35 pm

So, the long fan is a bad thing to have, and should be fixed? What if I intend to just live with the XGA display, do I still need to fix the fan?
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#6 Post by sjthinkpader » Sat Sep 27, 2008 5:56 pm

The standard fan should be ok unless you are going to change to a SXGA+ LCD, more pixel = more heat.

The intel GPU long fan is different from the long fan used in ATI machines.
T60p 2623-DDU/UXGA IPS/ATI V5200
T60 2623-DCU/SXGA+ IPS/ATI X1400
T43p 2668-H8U/UXGA IPS/ATI V3200
R50p 1832-NU1/UXGA IPS/ATI FireGL T2
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#7 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:06 pm

The main problem here is that the market value of a T43 with Intel graphics and XGA is significantly less than ones with ATi GPU and SXGA+...at least 25%...and I'd tend to say more...

You should return the machine or ask for a partial refund IMO.
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#8 Post by yuboo » Sat Sep 27, 2008 8:27 pm

内存128m,我的是256m,呵呵

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#9 Post by richk » Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:48 pm

There is a mistake in the posts above. The intel graphics chip does not support sxga+ whether 14" or 15"

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#10 Post by sjthinkpader » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:12 pm

That is correct for T43 with intel GPU, no SXGA+. Only available for R52 with intel GPU.

Haven't found a T43 with intel GPU to try out a SXGA+ panel yet.
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#11 Post by ajkula66 » Sat Sep 27, 2008 11:16 pm

sjthinkpader wrote:
Haven't found a T43 with intel GPU to try out a SXGA+ panel yet.
Don't even bother. It doesn't work.
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#12 Post by i-SnipeZ » Sun Sep 28, 2008 5:44 pm

Dont forget, that their are hundreds of thousands of older and slightly newer titles that can be played like a dream on a gma900. Including F.E.A.R which runs silky smooth w/ medium settings + 1024x768 on my 1872 T43.
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