Pictures of the 14.1 and 15 inch units side by side

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JohnV · #1 Post by **JohnV** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:08 am

I found a post on another board that had a link to another site with a side by side camparison of the T42P 14.1 and 15 inch units. I thought some of you here would like to see them.

http://forum.tt-hardware.com/ultimatebb ... p=8#000194

John

JeffNT326 · #2 Post by **JeffNT326** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:09 am

very nice find.

akeskira · #3 Post by **akeskira** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:17 am

Argh, I must cancel my EXU order. The 15" looks so gay next to the 14" model.

Antti

#4 Post by **K. Eng** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 11:52 am

How does it look "gay"? It looks like a ThinkPad to me.

akeskira wrote:Argh, I must cancel my EXU order. The 15" looks so gay next to the 14" model.

Antti

Txiasaeia · #5 Post by **Txiasaeia** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:19 pm

Interesting that the site was French, but the models were Japanese... I was *really* hoping to see a French keyboard. Oh well. Really nice find! Those pics are the best so far of T42's on the net!

spoon · #6 Post by **spoon** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:29 pm

tt-hardware has a great notebook forum, of course if you know french it's a plus

My research now is about avoiding the taxes from IBM, because Bill can't get a better discount that the Discovery Card (VISA, MASTERCARD....) for the 2379DXU. Has someone any idea?

akeskira · #7 Post by **akeskira** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:32 pm

How does it look "gay"? It looks like a ThinkPad to me.

I should've been clearer... The 15" looks too much like an R, which, oh well, looks very gay

I'm seriously reconsidering my T42-purchase. The 14" might be okayish, but deep down I know I'd be happier with a Dothan X-series.

Antti

andyk · #8 Post by **andyk** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:35 pm

Nice find.

I like Yago's icon. I feel like it's myself kicking and yelling "I want my 14" laptop NOW!"

Chun-Yu · #9 Post by **Chun-Yu** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 12:37 pm

akeskira wrote: I should've been clearer... The 15" looks too much like an R, which, oh well, looks very gay

I completely agree. The 14" looks much, much sleeker. The 15" really does look a lot lik an R series, and it is also "xbox hueg"

Unless you a 'p' model with 1600x1200 or have poor eyesight and need the extra size, I don't see why you would ever get one.

RaysMD · #10 Post by **RaysMD** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 1:37 pm

That's why, the 14" models are better. it's sleeker. see my prior post.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=424

Udayan · #11 Post by **Udayan** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 4:01 pm

Awesome find! 14" all the way!

jomar · #12 Post by **jomar** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:23 pm

Couldn't resist a reply. I've been lurking here for a few months now and appreciate all the info. I bought a R40 in March and with the 15" screen it was just too big so I sent if back. My T42 came in Thursday and it's size and the 14" screen is perfect.

By the way, the reason I bought an IBM in the first place is because for the past 4 or 5 years I've borrowed an old 380XD from a business I consult with and have had zero problems with it - it has been bulletproof. So when the software I use finally outgrew it the only decision was what kind of IBM to buy.

tyipengr · #13 Post by **tyipengr** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:24 pm

Wow. Well, that just helped finalize my decision. The 14-inch is the winner. The extra inch of diagonally viewable screen doesn't look like its worth the weight, size (those few mm in thickness makes a difference), and money. I hate to say it but the 14 incher really makes the 15-incher just look bloated, never thought I would see that in a T-series.

Great find!

Mofongo · #14 Post by **Mofongo** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 5:38 pm

IMHO, the only real reason to consider the 15" is the Flexview/IPS screen. I love my Flexview screen. But I hated to give up the 14.1" form factor to get it. For me, it was a worthwhile tradeoff, since there is a substantial difference in brightness, contrast, and clarity between the IPS screen in the 15" model and the regular TN in the 14.1".

The extra bulk looks like a lot in the pictures, but in reality you don't notice it. The extra weight is almost imperceptable as well. This is because the extra space the 15" model chassis takes up is mostly empty space...the case is just bigger to match the dimensions of the bigger screen.

Mofongo

Chun-Yu · #15 Post by **Chun-Yu** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:00 pm

Mofongo wrote:The extra weight is almost imperceptable as well.

Really? I can easily tell if I have the 6-cell or 9-cell battery in my T41 when it is in my backpack (and that weight difference is exactly the difference between a 14" and 15").

cynic · #16 Post by **cynic** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:11 am

I'm really interested in the PCMCIA doors shown on the 14" T in that pic? Anyone have any ideas... it looks like a better design than the door flap (as seen on the 15".)

BTW, IBM could fix the door flap design if they used a metal axle vs the plastic (which is too flexible) on the door flap (the axle which the spring loops around) I wonder if they fixed that with either the T41 or T42 (the door now has notches on it which the old one didn't)

G-Man · #17 Post by **G-Man** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 12:30 am

For me it looks like two SD card readers. Not sure about it. Never seen something like this on a T model. But if this is the one that comes with the new T42, you might be able to order one from IBM and replace it yourself (if it's compatible).

Edit: I'm talking about the 14" model. But it might be just a spacer.

Regards,
G-Man

#18 Post by **BillMorrow** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 2:37 am

sure looks like an R50p to me..
different and thinner bottom though..

htorres · #19 Post by **htorres** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:10 pm

Man that 15" just kicks butt.....i have to disagree with all of you...i cant tell the difference as to style...the bigger TP is just perfect for an old codger with bad eyesight...give me the 1024x768 15"..yeah...

beeblebrox · #20 Post by **beeblebrox** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:18 pm

I saw both models side by side in our ThinkPad center.
actually they are not much different in size. The 15" is as falt as the 14" when the lid is open. The base is almost identical, but there is NO creacky palmrest. it is rather rock solid like on the venerable T2x series. Very nice. The total height, when closed, is exactly like the T2x series. Not too bulky!

The screens are very similar, when you sit right in front of it. But at the slightes angle, the 14" washed out immediately. The 15" is perfect, although pretty thick.
Hmm... I have the T40p and have problems with the washing outs and am really thinking about upgrading to the 15" flexview.

However, what I heard from the sales guys is, that the Flexview sucks the battery as if there were no tommorrow!!
I guess with the 6 cell battery it's only 2 -2.5 hours? Am I mistaken? I will not want the 9 cell, because in sum this would then be too heavy. Any experiences on batteries?

I get Taurens · #21 Post by **I get Taurens** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:49 pm

There is a noticeable difference in weight, the 15" is quite a bit heavier than the 14"(and I guess the 15" just exceeds the limit for everyday travel for me), but the screen really saves the day for 15", the 14" doesn't come quite close to it(well, depands on what you do), I am working with both, so I take 14" in my backpack, at home I use my 15" as a desktop replacement, if I could only work with one, and 14" flexview is unborn, I'd go with 14" for my needs, but if you don't travel with it much, 15" is great desktop replacement, I can't say enough good things about its screen.

I also feels that the 14" is more pleasent for typing(I got Thai keyboard on both, so the keyboards are comparible) as there the palmrest on 14" gives a nice slope(thinker at the back and thinner at the front, also, what makes the difference in comfort when typing is the thinkness of the front part of the base, I am talking about typing at a desk, of course) compared to the roughly horizontal base of 15", 14" wins out, but again you get the screen tradeoff for your eye comfort in 15". lol, I can't talk this for too long, all depands on what you need

edit: about battery, with no settings changed, I only get about 2:40 hours' battery life with my 15" 2379DXU, about an hour more in my 14"

kano · #22 Post by **kano** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 10:02 pm

Sorry for temporary problems with pictures in thread:
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... ight=14+15
Now all should be visible.
Regards, KaNo