T40 vs T42 R&R disks

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T40 vs T42 R&R disks

#1 Post by jamnkats » Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:39 pm

I have 2 sets of T42 R&R disks. I used one set to setup factory defaults on a T42 without any trouble. I'm trying to use either set to setup a T40 to factory defaults and I keep running into trouble when it asks for Disk 2. I've searched on "rescue" and 3 pages of posts haven't answered the question of whether or not the T42 disks can be used in a T40. Does anyone know?
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T40 vs T42 R&R disks

#2 Post by Danny Manabat » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:46 pm

Yes you can use the T42 recovery disks on the T40.

Also have a T42 and a T40. After the installation, some of the drivers will not be compatible and you may have to manually install them.

Anyway, if you are planning to wipe out the hard disk drive - why not try. Then share us your experience too by posting them.
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#3 Post by jamnkats » Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:08 pm

Well I tried the T42 disks and I can't get R&R to load. The HDD is new (to me) and wiped and I'm just doing "restore factory contents". I might take the HDD to one of the T42s and see if I can get R&R to work and then move the HDD to the T40.
T30 2366-61U dead mobo
T30 2366-81U still works but not being currently used. I think I'll rectify that situation.
T40 2373-19U dead
(2) T42 2373-JXU with Flexview LCDs. One with either GPU or southbridge issue.
T43 2687-D4U with possible software problem. Awaiting R&Rs.

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#4 Post by jamnkats » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:38 pm

Ok, I cannot get the R&R's to install on this particular hard drive. Could it be a bad HD? I put this HDD in the T42 and tried to run the R&R's that I had previously been successful in using to setup that T42's HDD and the setup failed. Does this sound like a bad HDD? I got it off marketplace.

Would reformatting/partitioning the HDD help?
T30 2366-61U dead mobo
T30 2366-81U still works but not being currently used. I think I'll rectify that situation.
T40 2373-19U dead
(2) T42 2373-JXU with Flexview LCDs. One with either GPU or southbridge issue.
T43 2687-D4U with possible software problem. Awaiting R&Rs.

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#5 Post by sparta.rising » Thu Dec 11, 2008 4:45 pm

Whats the error you are getting? Might be a problem with the disc, maybe it got scratched after using with the T42. I know I had a bad burn of disc 6 and had to get a new copy.

If the hard drive is a hitachi, scan it with the hitachi drive fitness test. If its another brand, try the tools on the Ultimate Boot Disk.

If the T42 is still pretty close to factory, just clone the T42 drive on the T40 drive. Easy program to do this with is Acronis true image... I dont remember if the free version will let you, but there are free programs out there you can use to clone a disc.
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#6 Post by jamnkats » Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:58 pm

I am getting the CRC error - on two different R&R sets of disks. i've now burned the entire set of 7 disks from the T42 and am on Disk 3 running factory reset/restore on the T40. So far, I've received 2 CRC errors but it will keep going (on Disk 3 so far). I'm hoping this will finally allow me to at least install Windows on the T40 but is it looking like I have a problem with the HDD on the T40?

The exact error is :

Error copying file D:\recovery\CMAUBUS.IMD Error 23: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
T30 2366-61U dead mobo
T30 2366-81U still works but not being currently used. I think I'll rectify that situation.
T40 2373-19U dead
(2) T42 2373-JXU with Flexview LCDs. One with either GPU or southbridge issue.
T43 2687-D4U with possible software problem. Awaiting R&Rs.

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#7 Post by virge » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:09 pm

I haven't had the same problem before, but it sounds like you're getting a read error. Some drives are picky about burned CDs, so try swapping the drives between your machines and see if the problem goes away.
jamnkats wrote:I am getting the CRC error - on two different R&R sets of disks. i've now burned the entire set of 7 disks from the T42 and am on Disk 3 running factory reset/restore on the T40. So far, I've received 2 CRC errors but it will keep going (on Disk 3 so far). I'm hoping this will finally allow me to at least install Windows on the T40 but is it looking like I have a problem with the HDD on the T40?

The exact error is :

Error copying file D:\recovery\CMAUBUS.IMD Error 23: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
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#8 Post by sjthinkpader » Fri Dec 12, 2008 12:39 pm

Have you install new RAM recently in the machine you are trying to burn the RR disks?
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#9 Post by jamnkats » Fri Dec 12, 2008 10:23 pm

I've tried this HDD in the T42 that I was previously able to run R&R on (different HDD) and it has the same problem as in the T40. I created 7 new R&R disks (so that is 3 sets of disks I've tried with this HDD) and continue to get the error. I created a DOS boot disk and fdisked the partitions away to start from scratch and still get the CRC errors. Is there any way this problem can be something other than the HDD? I got it (along with another that I've had no trouble with) from our Marketplace forum.
T30 2366-61U dead mobo
T30 2366-81U still works but not being currently used. I think I'll rectify that situation.
T40 2373-19U dead
(2) T42 2373-JXU with Flexview LCDs. One with either GPU or southbridge issue.
T43 2687-D4U with possible software problem. Awaiting R&Rs.

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#10 Post by Maccess » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:43 pm

FWIW, the T43-ATI discrete graphics, recovery CDs, original IBM WXPSP2, don't work on the T42. I believe it has something to do with the SATA controller and driver of the T43.

In fact, it hasn't worked on anything except the T43.

The T30 recovery CDs (Win XP Pro SP 0) work on most anything before the T43, but you'll have to go through a very long updating process as you'll have to bring it up to SP3, and update the drivers and Thinkpad software.

The validation process works as normal, creating the correct product key from the board and machine serial number and UUID.

I used XPSP2 updater, downloaded Thinkpad system update, then run autopatcher--all these mean you'll need a broadband Internet connection to run through all the updaters.

Does anyone know what the WXP version on the T42 recovery CDs? Is it WXP Service Pack 1 or Service Pack 2?

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Re: T40 vs T42 R&R disks

#11 Post by kocoman » Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:13 pm

What program can I use to open the IMD file?

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Re: T40 vs T42 R&R disks

#12 Post by sktn77a » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:25 pm

Factory (stamped) recovery CDs from the T42 series work fine with the T40 with the latest BIOS (I've done it many times). One possible glitch is the wireless card which you may have to install manually. If you are using burned discs, this could be the problem (read error or some flag that the burned disks have that the stamped ones don't). My bet is a bad recovery CD or a bad optical drive (could be a bad hard drive, also, but I think that's the last likely explanation).

The early T42 recovery CDs had XP SP1 while the later ones had SP2. I've used both and they both worked fine on T40s and T41s.
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