How Much is Sharholders Discount?

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How Much is Sharholders Discount?

#1 Post by chrisnyc » Fri Jan 21, 2005 3:12 pm

Does anyone know how much percentage the IBM shareholders discount is? I'm thinking about getting a T43 when the new models come out next month. Right now the MasterCard, etc discount is 10 to 20%. How much better is the sharholders discount? Thanks.

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#2 Post by frank99 » Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:25 pm

hello

is there really a discount for Sharholders???


and why i should buy a T42 for "only" 20% at the mastercard site when i get the new T43 also for 20% (also at the mastercard site)????

will IBM give more discounts for the "old" T42 in the next days?

what do you think?

thanks
frank

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#3 Post by TimWang » Fri Jan 21, 2005 11:13 pm

considering that the stockprice is around 100 dollars, the discount will probably be less then what you paid for the stock.

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#4 Post by Cneil » Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:43 am

But couldn't he just sell the stock? If he bought the stock for $100 and then sold if for $100, all he would be out for is the brokerage commission. Best case, if the stock goes up, then he's net positive :)

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#5 Post by TimWang » Sat Jan 22, 2005 3:43 pm

I guess you could do that....

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#6 Post by Daver » Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:59 pm

EPP pricing is better than the MasterCard/Visa pricing on the models I just checked.

I would guess SPP to be the same as EPP, or at least as good as Visa/MC. Just speculation though.

An EPP 2378-FVU is $1402. Vs. $1484 for Visa. So that's 17.6% vs. 10% discount.

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#7 Post by TimWang » Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:10 pm

What's this Visa discount? Do you get it just by using your Visa card?

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#8 Post by etherealtml » Sat Jan 22, 2005 9:23 pm

frank99 wrote:and why i should buy a T42 for "only" 20% at the mastercard site when i get the new T43 also for 20% (also at the mastercard site)????
Don't look at the model numbers so much as the components that comprise the entire system.

Well from what I've seen, the main difference seems to be that IBM has dropped the "ATI mobility Radeon" graphics chip in favor of an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900" in the new T43.

I could be wrong, but last I checked ATI is the graphics leader, followed closely by Nvidia, and after that, everyone else is a distant third(Intel).

Basically, this will mean that the new T43 series will probably have a longer battery life at the expense of graphical performance. A T43 should be fine for web browsing, playing DVD's, etc, but don't expect it to play any of the newer games like a T42 can.

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#9 Post by fargusmax » Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:25 pm

etherealtml wrote:
frank99 wrote:and why i should buy a T42 for "only" 20% at the mastercard site when i get the new T43 also for 20% (also at the mastercard site)????
Don't look at the model numbers so much as the components that comprise the entire system.

Well from what I've seen, the main difference seems to be that IBM has dropped the "ATI mobility Radeon" graphics chip in favor of an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900" in the new T43.

I could be wrong, but last I checked ATI is the graphics leader, followed closely by Nvidia, and after that, everyone else is a distant third(Intel).

Basically, this will mean that the new T43 series will probably have a longer battery life at the expense of graphical performance. A T43 should be fine for web browsing, playing DVD's, etc, but don't expect it to play any of the newer games like a T42 can.
IBM will be offering the T43 later with the ATI X300. The availability date on the T43 with the X300 is in late Feb, which might be why they aren't showing up on the website yet. Check out the TABOOK linked on Bill's store page. It will tell you about every single T43 being offered and what month they will be available.

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#10 Post by aamsel » Sun Jan 23, 2005 1:41 pm

The shareholder's price (SPP) is currently identical to the VISA/Mastercard pricing. It is 10 percent on most models, only higher on non-ThinkExpress models that have (what appears to be) an overpriced web price.

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frank99 wrote:hello

is there really a discount for Sharholders???


and why i should buy a T42 for "only" 20% at the mastercard site when i get the new T43 also for 20% (also at the mastercard site)????

will IBM give more discounts for the "old" T42 in the next days?

what do you think?

thanks
frank

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#11 Post by RS_003 » Sun Jan 23, 2005 2:15 pm

fargusmax wrote:
etherealtml wrote: Don't look at the model numbers so much as the components that comprise the entire system.

Well from what I've seen, the main difference seems to be that IBM has dropped the "ATI mobility Radeon" graphics chip in favor of an "Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900" in the new T43.

I could be wrong, but last I checked ATI is the graphics leader, followed closely by Nvidia, and after that, everyone else is a distant third(Intel).

Basically, this will mean that the new T43 series will probably have a longer battery life at the expense of graphical performance. A T43 should be fine for web browsing, playing DVD's, etc, but don't expect it to play any of the newer games like a T42 can.
IBM will be offering the T43 later with the ATI X300. The availability date on the T43 with the X300 is in late Feb, which might be why they aren't showing up on the website yet. Check out the TABOOK linked on Bill's store page. It will tell you about every single T43 being offered and what month they will be available.

Yes, but a X300 isn't really fast ;) (like 9200SE performance)
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#12 Post by chrisnyc » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:52 pm

Thanks for everyone's input. I'm still not sure I have a definitive answer to the question "how much is the sharholder's discount."

Aamsel stated above it is currently identical to the MasterCard discount. Is it ever higher? I vaguely recall some time ago reading that it might be as high as 1/3 off the regular price.

If it's always the same as the credit card discounts, I'd just as soon use them.

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#13 Post by JHEM » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:01 pm

I've been a stockholder for years (thanks Gramps!) and I don't recall it ever being more than about 20%.

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#14 Post by hausman » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:14 pm

JHEM wrote:I've been a stockholder for years (thanks Gramps!) and I don't recall it ever being more than about 20%.
In my experience (here in Canada) the SPP percentage seems to vary but it's usually 10% to 20%. It's never been less than the standard credit card and other promotional discounts.
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