T42 is dead

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andykrej
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T42 is dead

#1 Post by andykrej » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:43 am

My dearly beloved T42 won't switch on. I switched it off yesterday evening, left it with battery (60% charged) and charger connected and today it is completely dead. No lights, and neither battery nor a/c adapter can be used to switch it on.

I have checked all fuses on the famous fuse map (except f13, which I can't find), and they're OK.

Is there somewhere on the board, I can check if power is really going into the system?

My next step would be to try with a different CPU. What do you suggest?
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Re: T42 is dead

#2 Post by sktn77a » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:57 pm

You're probably wasting your time swapping out the CPU as they are the most robust component in the entire system. Sounds like a motherboard issue other than a fuze.

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Re: T42 is dead

#3 Post by andykrej » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:01 pm

Well, I did swap it before reading your post. Didn't work.

My battery puts out 12 V (more than the normal 10.8 ) on the terminals. Could that fry the mainboard?
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Re: T42 is dead

#4 Post by Harryc » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:57 pm

Check the output of the AC adapter at it's center pin with a multimeter. It should read 16vDC.

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Re: T42 is dead

#5 Post by andykrej » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:28 pm

It's 16,6 V.

I have another adapter somewhere. I'll check later to see if it's better.
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Re: T42 is dead

#6 Post by Harryc » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:40 pm

Remove the battery, remove the RAM. remove all drives and cards/cables. Press the power button down repeatedly for 10 reps, then hold it down for 30 seconds. Plug in the AC adapter. Power on, do you get any system beeps? If not, the system board is most likely bad.

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Re: T42 is dead

#7 Post by andykrej » Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:52 pm

Thanks for posting. Already tried that one. Didn't work.

I guess the main board is toast...

I was hoping somebody could point out some components to check. I'm sure it's something easy to fix when you know it.
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Re: T42 is dead

#8 Post by lifrancis » Fri Sep 11, 2009 5:01 pm

If the unit was working before you turned it off, then may be the problem is the switch itself. Try to get another T4X keyboard and see if that will work.
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Re: T42 is dead

#9 Post by andykrej » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:38 pm

Have thought the same already, and tried it with a different keyboard. No success :(

I'll try it with a different power supply and post the results.
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Re: T42 is dead

#10 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:50 pm

Remove all the RAM and power the unit. Does it beep?
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Re: T42 is dead

#11 Post by Binh » Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:28 am

andykrej
Try to do the followings (it work's on my "dead" T41):
- Attach the battery
- Connect the external power supply (i.e. AC adaptor). You may see the light indicating that the battery is being charged.
- Disconnect the external power supply, and, within 1-2 seconds, turn on the computer.
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Re: T42 is dead

#12 Post by kankan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:12 pm

Hi there,

I had a similar problem. the ac adapter lead had broken from various people tinking it was a skipping rope. it finally died with a short. I got a new lead on ebay and when pluged it in the t41was completely dead. i tried the remove all drives and memory and battery and hey presto it worked. saved again by thinkpad .com. thankyou
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