T43 or T42

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T43 or T42

#1 Post by arun » Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:46 pm

Ok i have almost boiled it down..

T43 2668-71U

or a T42 which is similar to it...

which one is better?

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#2 Post by Leon » Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:10 pm

IMHO T42=better price/performance. Contact Bill, he has some good sales, no sales tax, perfect pixel screen check (if you want), and nice guy!

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#3 Post by dfumento » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:14 am

See the "Before you Buy" FAQ in my sig. check tabook and discounts.

It is my experience that the T43 and T42 prices are roughly equivalent.

T43 gives you a more advanced wireless mini-PCI, Expresscard Slot, and a little more (see FAQ) and possibly higher resale value.

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#4 Post by trikster2 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:16 am

There is no one right choice. T42 vs T43 really depends on what is important to you.

T43 Advantages:

PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet (the T42 has PCI based Ethernet.

(no benchies yet but broadcom flyer claimes "wire speed" gig networking, believe it when I see it).

ExpressCard/54
Replacement to PCCARDS/PCMCIA. Based on a 250mB/s PCIe iinterface it is twice as fast as the PCI based PCMCIA. Problem: So cutting edge you can't get cards for it yet. Benifit: Iti is a shorter card than the PCCARD. Maybe cards won't stick out.

Faster/Dual Channel memory: Not a big help on the Pentium M. Toms is showing 5% speed increase.


Which is all fine and dandy. But the average user does not use gig ethernet, and if they do are happy with the PCI based chipsets. Expresscard/54 is swell but by the time it becomes "the standard" you will probably be upgrading your notebook.

So overall. What the previous posters said. Get the T42 (unless you need faster networking, interface cards and memory.)

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#5 Post by arun » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:20 am

So I read the FAQ and looked at the TABOOK

This is what I found and you guys can help me decide which one is a better machine.

2373-M1U Pentium M 745 1.8 512MB 14.1” SXGA+ 9600 80HS Combo IBM 11a/b/g II Mod/Blue Finger Yes 4.1 hr Oct 04

2373-M2U Pentium M 745 1.8 512MB 14.1" SXGA+ 9600 80HS Combo ✳ Intel 11a/b/g Mod/Blue Finger Yes 4.1 hr Feb 05

2373-M3U Pentium M 745 1.8 512MB 14.1” SXGA+ 9600 60U Combo ✳ Intel 11b/g Wi-Fi Mod/Blue Finger Yes 4.0 hr Oct 04

vs.

2668-4EU Pentium M 750 1.86 512MB 14.1" SXGA+ X300 40HS Combo Intel 11a/b/g Mod/Blue Finger Yes 915PM W Feb 05

2668-71U Pentium M 760 2.00 512MB 14.1" SXGA+ X300 80HS Combo ✳ Intel 11a/b/g Mod/Blue Finger Yes 915PM Feb 05

The 71U sounds ideal, its a T43 with all the things I need and I saw it for EPP price of 1650. Now will the T42's be cheaper? Better bang for the buck and I think the 9600 Video Card will hold up with longhorn. Im just your avg user. No CAD or anything. just surfing, web design, music, burning cds, photoshop...

Your thoughts guys?

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#6 Post by dfumento » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:28 am

arun wrote: Now will the T42's be cheaper?
You'll have the check the EPP discounts for the units yourself :)

The M3U has a 7200 RPM hard drive. I personally chose a 80GB HD over the somewhat faster 7200 hard drive.

I'd go with the unit you suggested. You can't go wrong for this great deal for $1650.
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#7 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 12:37 am

i personally prefer the 4eu...cause i already have a spare 60 7200 hd....1.86ghz is comparable to 2.0ghz on 90% of stuff i do anyway...and save miself a cool $200
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#8 Post by davidlg16 » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:02 am

y not the 74u? everything the same as 266871u but 74u has ibm wifi instead of intel.
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#9 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:14 am

davidlg16 wrote:y not the 74u? everything the same as 266871u but 74u has ibm wifi instead of intel.
David, the 74u has the ibm card but is not centrino....other than that, it's identical to 71u....

what do you think about centrino certified or not....what about we upgrade the card ourself from intel to ibm...wouldn't it be cheaper?
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#10 Post by Aramitz » Fri Mar 18, 2005 10:26 am

dfumento wrote:See the "Before you Buy" FAQ in my sig. check tabook and discounts.

It is my experience that the T43 and T42 prices are roughly equivalent.

T43 gives you a more advanced wireless mini-PCI, Expresscard Slot, and a little more (see FAQ) and possibly higher resale value.

Let us know what you've found out...

I'm asking myself too :)
To day it's more interesting a T42
I'm waiting for the T ?? with the Yonah Q1 2006

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#11 Post by craigg » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:25 pm

Arun,

I am using the T43 2668-72U now. It is the same as the 71U except I have the new Mutiburner plus drive. I spent a lot of time comparing machines and with EPP pricing the T42 and T43 were virtually the same in price for similar configurations. I think in the long run you will be much happier with the T43 even if it is a few dollars more. Someone posted that you should order the unit with the Atheos wireless chip. I honestly don't see the benefit of that chip especially when it would have pushed delivery out 3 - 4 weeks. I received my T43 six days after ordering it. I am using Win Xp so the wireless results may be different under other operating systems but with XP it works perfectly. So far I have tested it by connecting to my wireless G router. I have printed, faxed, and scanned to a wireless B All In One device. I have set up a dial up netwrking connection using my cell phone and bluetooth. Performed GPS navigation using bluetooth. Syncronized with my smart phone using activesync. I am still testing now but so far everything is working. :D

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#12 Post by CoolDragon » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:10 pm

T43 uses a liitle bit higher capacity battery.

And maybe, maybe, T43 has a better build quality ( such as the FAN and DVD gap ).
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#13 Post by arun » Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:11 pm

Yah.. I have been comparing too. I just wanna get the best I can afford and that will do a good job. I don't want to be outdated buy a new version as soon I get it.

I think im just gonna get the 71U or EU4 ... only difference is 2.00GHZ vs. 1.86 GHZ..


also how do you know if it has the Atheros chip?

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#14 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:03 pm

both of these models have intel 2200bg chip, the 74u has atheros chip..71u and 74u are the same price so get the 7u4 if you like atheros chip

since the chip is only 50 bucks...why don't you buy the 4eu and buy the card and swap them out...it cheaper.
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#15 Post by arun » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:32 pm

is it that easy to swap out the chip ?

i guess only thing I have to do know is get the real EPP price for the following 3 models and figure which one I want.

2668- 4EU
2668- 71U
2668- 74U

hmm...

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#16 Post by craigg » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:41 pm

I don't see any advantage in getting the Atheros chipset. I certainly don't want to wait an extra month to get that machine. If I ever have need for it I will buy it and upgrade it myself. One can find what units have the Atheros chipset by referring to the tabook.pdf.

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#17 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 3:52 pm

arun,
here is the epp price for models you looking at

71u and 74u are the same price at 1657. 4eu is 1494...
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#18 Post by arun » Fri Mar 18, 2005 5:40 pm

So its about a 163 difference.

for $163 dollars more you get

faster chip - 2ghz
bigger HD - 80gb
wifi - atheros chip or centrino

hmm....

[censored] you gotta add in the 3 year service thing too...

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#19 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:25 pm

all of the 3 models i listed have 3 years warranty.

only the 74u has atheros chip, the other 2 have intel 2200bg hence centrino certified.
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#20 Post by arun » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:34 pm

So I guess I don't have to buy anything extra..

just pay for tax and shipping...

the warranty covers the machine for 3 years? I can send it back during that time if something goes wrong and they will fix it ?

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#21 Post by baraider » Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:38 pm

do read the FAQ. Most of your questions can be found there.
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