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zazonz · #1 Post by **zazonz** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:51 pm

I have a T41 with a XGA screen. I bought my laptop around the same time as I upgraded my to a desktop LCD which runs at 1280x1024. Now everything on my laptop seems so big. How hard is it to upgrade the screen? If I do upgrade the screen, will that affect my warranty since I have two and a half years left on it? I found one here:

http://www.idparts.com/ibm_t40_2.htm

Anyone know where to get one cheaper. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks.

#2 Post by **daeojkim** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:20 pm

I don't think it is worth changing the screen. It will be better to trade for another laptop with SXGA+.
As far I know it is not simply a matter of chaging the LCD, but also other components like the inverter etc...

bhuiyan · #3 Post by **bhuiyan** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:54 pm

It seems my problem is opposite to you. Like you, I have been using a T41 XGA screen, but also a T42 SXGA+ screen for some time.　I also am using a desktop LCD at the above 1280x1024 resolution, which looks very nice to me. Although the SXGA+ T42 screen is brighter and web pages (after properly configuring the text) often look better, I still do not feel comfortable looking at it. As I need to lean forward to look at the screen. Is it age?

Sure, I have been looking at monitors whole day for the last 15+ years.

That got me thinking? What people nearing 40 doing screenwise? Is there anyone using a XGA T series laptop screen with a 20 inch UXGA external monitor? I am thinking of doing this as I no longer open my desktops any more.

Regards

Shoaib

JHEM · #4 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:25 pm

bhuiyan wrote:That got me thinking? What people nearing 40 doing screenwise? Is there anyone using a XGA T series laptop screen with a 20 inch UXGA external monitor? I am thinking of doing this as I no longer open my desktops any more.

Well, I'm pretty well past 40, but that's my "normal" rig, although I just purchased an SXGA+ 14.1" T42 that I'm having some difficulty getting comfortable with.

I've been using my 14.1" XGA T40 daily for quite some time and took advantage of an opportunity to upgrade to the T42 in the hope that I would find the display usable. I love my UXGA Dell 20.1" LCD and can use my UXGA-IPS equipped A30p fairly comfortably, which had led me to hope that the T42 would be acceptable. I fear that I need to upgrade to the 15" display if I really want an SXGA+ display.

I find all of this a bit discomfiting as I was happily using an SXGA+ equipped T21 and T23 for the two years prior to the purchase of my T40, although I will admit that I tended to grab my XGA equipped T30, or even my 600X when heading on the road. Perhaps even then my brain was trying to tell me that I was taxing my one good eye.

Regards,

James

bhuiyan · #5 Post by **bhuiyan** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:11 pm

Thanks James, for sharing your screen dilemma. Is there anyone who has been using monitors extensively for the last 15+ years and yet is very comfortable working LONG on a SXGA+ T4x screen? I 'd appreciate if you can post your display settings, for WindowsXp.

However, if there is none, I wonder whether laptop LCD manufacturers are going too far in providing a SXGA+ screen on a 14.1" screen. Because most mid to higher end models are now configured with this screen, I am in trouble getting a decent pre-built model with XGA screen, RADEON 7500 card, Pentium M CPU, 60-80 GB HDD (5400 RPM is OK), wifi G, 512 MB RAM stick, 6 cell battery. and a touchpad. That's all I need on a T4x.

James, is there any adjustments needed to drive n external UXGA monitor from a simple XGA T4x?

Regards

Shoaib

Tan Mann · #6 Post by **Tan Mann** » Mon Mar 21, 2005 11:49 pm

bhuiyan wrote:Thanks James, for sharing your screen dilemma. Is there anyone who has been using monitors extensively for the last 15+ years and yet is very comfortable working LONG on a SXGA+ T4x screen? I 'd appreciate if you can post your display settings, for WindowsXp.
Shoaib

How 'bout this:
I be 42 yrs old
Used monitors from '79(26 yrs+)
I have used LCDs for the last 9 years.
I have 2 reasonably decent eyes
I have used 14" SXGA for the last 4 years
I used 14" SXGA+ for 3 months so far.
I used 15" SXGA+ for 4 months so far.
I can use the 14" SXGA+ for 1hr before I start going batty.
I can use the 15" SXGA+ for 6 hours before my co-workers/wife/son/daughter get the better of me.

I have tried using the 14" SXGA+ at 110dpi, larger font sizes in my apps etc, but it still didn't feel "right" after about 1 hr of work. I can only assume that the occasional "hit" of small text from pop-ups and helps screens are occasions to cause squinting, are a bit jarring on my temperament.

Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the size and weight of the 14" SXGA+ units...I just can't work with them in excess of an hour.

These days, I use the 2379DXU(15" SXGA+) as my workhorse and the 2373M3U as my "meetings" PC.

Not sure if this is helpful, but that is how it worked out for me...

TM

JHEM · #7 Post by **JHEM** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:13 am

Tan Mann wrote:Not sure if this is helpful, but that is how it worked out for me...

I found it at least of more than passing interest.

Seems youth really is served when it comes to these high resolution displays in small packages.

Probably also explains why my eagle-eyed pilot son wouldn't give up his SXGA+ 14.1" T21 at gunpoint!

Regards,

James

bhuiyan · #8 Post by **bhuiyan** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:39 am

Tan Mann,

Your case history helped me put my disappointment in context. By the way, the following URL states that "ALL IBM laptop series, even though they have a DVI (digital) connector will NOT DRIVE a 20" flat panel with a resolution of 1600 x 1200!"

[url]http://www.notebookreview.com/forums/to ... 12969&[url]

Hello James! I was hoping to use an external UXGA monitor with both SXGA+ T42 and my XGA T41

I also noted a Sept 2003 article in the old forum that states that T40P and A31P are OK with UXGA external UXGA monitors. So which one is incorrect?

Regards

Shoaib

#9 Post by **daeojkim** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:00 am

As far I know you can connect to 1600 x 1200 external monitor as long as you have the right drivers.

beeblebrox · #10 Post by **beeblebrox** » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:21 am

I think, there is some misunderstanding with monitors.

The higher the resolution the better. An SXGA+ display has about 125 dpi (dots per inch), making everything much, much crisper and more readible than simple xga.
If you read a printout with 300-600 dpi or a fine book with 1200dpi you don't complain either. Don't you?

The only problem is the way Microsoft has programmed its Windows GUI. It is pixel-based and not vector-based. The only thing you can do is changing the font size, but mostly it will screw up the formatting and render icons to tiny dots.

Having realized that most computers today have a quite powerful graphics card and high-resolution displays vs. VGA 640x480 displays a few years ago, most vendors such as Silicon Graphics, Sun, Apple and now even Microsoft have made the change to vector-graphics based GUI.

So, in your case, if you can live with SXGA+ for a few more months then you have probably heard that the AVALON GUI of Microsoft Longhorn will be released this summer, way before Longhorn in end of 2006.

Avalon will use the graphics processors and vector graphics. So you can scale the display as you like, which crispness all the time.
Right now, every thing is pixel-based and the CPU is doing all the graphics work.

I am not sure about Linux, but those GUIs are vector based already, methinks.

zazonz · #11 Post by **zazonz** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:31 am

[quote="beeblebrox"]So, in your case, if you can live with SXGA+ for a few more months then you have probably heard that the AVALON GUI of Microsoft Longhorn will be released this summer, way before Longhorn in end of 2006.[/quote]

Any more info on this? Right now I have XGA+, but would like the option of SXGA+. Thanks.

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