T43 - New Power Manager?

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Kenn · #1 Post by **Kenn** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:18 am

I messed around with a T43 14" today. Pretty much just like the T42. However, when I clicked on the Battery Maximiser gauge, it went to a new "Power Manager" app that showed not only battery power and CPU/display speed, but also other stuff like fan noise/speed. I think it may have been set to admin access because I couldn't change any settings.

Can anyone with a T42 and T43 confirm this?

Also, the power rating on the new 6-cell battery was about 56Wh. My T42's Sony 6-cell's design capacity is rated at 47.52Wh. I think someone mentioned the higher-capacity batteries before.

Last difference I noticed was that the Expresscard eject button didn't seem to "pop out" for ejection (the port was empty)

#2 Post by **BillMorrow** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:02 am

you are correct..
i was setting up a new T43 going to a customer in kosovo..
and during the little burn in i too noticed the new battery utility..

quite nice though i did not have time to mess with it much..

craigg · #3 Post by **craigg** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:14 pm

I can confirm the new utility and the new batteries are:

6 cell = 4800wh

9 cell = 7200wh

Kenn · #4 Post by **Kenn** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 2:56 pm

Thanks for the confirmation guys. I'm going to take another look at the battery and see if I got the capacity wrong. IIRC it was a Sanyo or Panasonic battery, and it was definitely over 50Wh.

nikemen · #5 Post by **nikemen** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:03 pm

craigg wrote:I can confirm the new utility and the new batteries are:

6 cell = 4800wh

9 cell = 7200wh

how differant is this from the older versions,

and secondly WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD THE NEW MANAGER?

Kenn · #6 Post by **Kenn** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:45 pm

nikemen wrote:
craigg wrote:I can confirm the new utility and the new batteries are:

6 cell = 4800wh

9 cell = 7200wh
how differant is this from the older versions,

and secondly WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD THE NEW MANAGER?

I think these are the specs for the "old" batteries. Someone in an earlier thread mentioned that some newer batteries held more charge, and the demo T43 I saw on Friday indeed had ~56Wh on a full charge. It sounds like it may be a 15-20% increase, just in time to counter the slightly greater power draw of the sonoma platform. I'll had back on Monday to double-check though.

I'm also interested in whether the new power monitor will load on a T42p, but that's just because I like to play with new and shiny things.

#7 Post by **aamsel** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 3:47 pm

The T43's are supposed to use a pinch more power than T42's so it is a "wash". Now, a T43 battery in a T42 would give more time, I assume.

Andrew
Austin, TX

Kenn wrote:Thanks for the confirmation guys. I'm going to take another look at the battery and see if I got the capacity wrong. IIRC it was a Sanyo or Panasonic battery, and it was definitely over 50Wh.

#8 Post by **K. Eng** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:24 pm

Can the new power management software allow the user to change the speed of the fan?

The new software sounds great!

I wouldn't mind having a 56 Watt*Hr battery in my T40 - that would get me 4.3 hours of use with screen at half brightness and WiFi on

craigg · #9 Post by **craigg** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:17 pm

The older batteries are rated as follows:

6 cell = 4400wh

9 cell = 6600wh

versus the newer models:

6 cell = 4800wh

9 cell = 7200wh

This is the stated capacity and can vary. My actual capacity of my 6 cell battery is approximately 5200wh.

The new power management software allows for two fan speed options:

Maximize performance

Balance all paramaters

#10 Post by **K. Eng** » Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:48 pm

Wait! I think I know why people are getting confused!

The ratings Craigg listed are not Watt*Hr (or total energy), they are Amp*Hr! (Check around the web - this is shown at many stores).

The capacity is 6.6 Amp*Hr (6600 mAh as some say) for the 9-cell and 4.4 Amp*Hr for the 6-cell. But the Amp capacity is useless without knowing the potential of the current, which in the case of a ThinkPad battery is 10.8 Volts.

10.8 Volts * 4.4 Amps*Hr = 47.52 Watts*Hr. Since Watts = Joules/Second, a Watt*Hr is a measurement of total Joules or energy capacity of the 6-cell battery.

The new 6-cell batteries are 4800 mAh, or 4.8 Amp*Hr. Using Volts * Amp*Hr, we get a a design capacity of 51.84 Watt*Hr, which is in line with what Craigg observes on his T43.

My ThinkPad averages about 13 Watts with WiFi on and screen at half, and moderate usage. 51.84 Watt*Hr / 13 Watt = Approx 3.99 hours runtime.

admsteiner · #11 Post by **admsteiner** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:09 am

And there shouldn't be any problems running the new T43 batteries in a T42 should there...

--adam

Kenn · #12 Post by **Kenn** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 10:08 am

K. Eng wrote:Wait! I think I know why people are getting confused!

The ratings Craigg listed are not Watt*Hr (or total energy), they are Amp*Hr! (Check around the web - this is shown at many stores).

The capacity is 6.6 Amp*Hr (6600 mAh as some say) for the 9-cell and 4.4 Amp*Hr for the 6-cell. But the Amp capacity is useless without knowing the potential of the current, which in the case of a ThinkPad battery is 10.8 Volts.

10.8 Volts * 4.4 Amps*Hr = 47.52 Watts*Hr. Since Watts = Joules/Second, a Watt*Hr is a measurement of total Joules or energy capacity of the 6-cell battery.

The new 6-cell batteries are 4800 mAh, or 4.8 Amp*Hr. Using Volts * Amp*Hr, we get a a design capacity of 51.84 Watt*Hr, which is in line with what Craigg observes on his T43.

My ThinkPad averages about 13 Watts with WiFi on and screen at half, and moderate usage. 51.84 Watt*Hr / 13 Watt = Approx 3.99 hours runtime.

Ah, thanks for the clarification! 47.52 is exaclty what the "design capacity" on my 6-cell states.

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