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I got the 1706-8DU unit yesterday. I guess some people might want to see what the X60 and the ultrabase look like. I uploaded the album and wrote some descriptions in Flickr. Hope it is useful.

Very nice pics! Excellent depth of field.
What camera did you use?

Oh..great computer, too.

I must say, very good photos.

Managed to get some good shots of the ultrabase as well.

wpwood3 wrote:What camera did you use?

"Taken with a Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT"

Regards,

James

They provide plenty of help from the technical/IT side of things; I can't see where the exclusion or moving of the RJ-11 Jack to the Ultrabase would harm things any. Not unless you wanted mobility whilst moving about your machines and actually wanted to *dial back in*, which I can't see anybody doing any more.

Well, I still do quite a bit of dial up when I travel around the world. I often cannot get (cheap) broadband/wireless in some locations but there's almost always a telephone line, so I use iPass and my employer's ISP details to get connected and pull down email.

I didn't realise the X60 didn't have a built-in modem.

christopher_wolf wrote:They provide plenty of help from the technical/IT side of things; I can't see where the exclusion or moving of the RJ-11 Jack to the Ultrabase would harm things any. Not unless you wanted mobility whilst moving about your machines and actually wanted to *dial back in*, which I can't see anybody doing any more.

I was expecting this answer from one of admin's . Your right from your
point as your a residant of United States Of America. If you been to
Africa or to Asia before, you wont say that. In US now nobody runs
dial up coenctions. Broadband or wireless. Thats it ! Technology moving
very fast.


But still in many asian and in african countries users have no option but
dial up connection for communication. Just think, a photographer or some
executive goes to urban area of India, he cant find broadband or wireless
LAN to access through his X series ThinkPad®, and it doesnt mean that
India is poor country and nobody can afford, sure why not, we can buy
X series laptop. Not a big deal, but technicaly IBM® must provide RJ11
jack for integrated IBM modem. And secondly they dont provide touch
pad also which is strange. All other vendors provide finest touchpad for
tablet pc's . I found this 1st draw back in a ThinkPad® .



Regards,
Amey Abhyankar.

Touchpad? The X Series never had a touchpad as far as I know; besides, it would only take up space for no good reason.

Point taken about the RJ11 connection; but it still isn't much of a big deal. When somebody travels, they are never guaranteed a solid connection anywhere unless they have specifically asked for it. I can give you some hotels in the US I have stayed at where you cannot connect to the internet via dialup or other means. This is why stuff like EVDO and WWAN are coming out, connect just as you would with a cell phone. If worst comes to worst, you can always use a bluetooth gateway to your cell phone and initiate a dial-up connection that way. Far more flexible than expecting RJ11 at any location you travel to (US or International); no big deal.

I'm glad these photos are useful.

sco1984, the X60 *comes* with an RJ11 jack. It is on the right side next to the power in jack. Click the photo below to see my note of the location in the picture.



I have used the X60 for a couple of days. It is really great. Very strongly built and incredibly light (I came from a T-series camp). My only design complaint with the X60 is one of the 4 rubber legs is at the battery. If you use the unit without a battery, it will not stand firmly.

I don't usually use the Windows key, but I will try to get used to it. It makes the ctrl+alt+del keypress harder. I can no longer use one finger to press both the ctrl and alt at the same time!

P.S. Thank you all for your compliments. I used the 50mm F1.8 lens with the Canon Digital Rebel XT.

sco1984 wrote:In US now nobody runs dial up coenctions. Broadband or wireless. Thats it !

Sorry, but that's bull. No way, no how is the entire US using a broadband connection to the Internet. Recheck your statistics.

How do I know? I'm still using dialup, because the cheapest broadband connection I can currently get at home is over $40/month.

To the OP - nice pics. Sharp-looking unit.

sco1984 wrote:And secondly they dont provide touch pad also which is strange. All other vendors provide finest touchpad for tablet pc's . I found this 1st draw back in a ThinkPad®

Very few people who use Thinkpads consider the lack of a touchpad in the X series machines to be a "drawback". The Trackpoint is capable of much finer control than the average touchpad and is the preferred device once you become familiar with it.

It would be more fitting to decry the lack of a Trackpoint on those other tablets as the true drawback.

Regards,

James

I personally don't use trackpad. My previous T41 has both the stick and the pad. I guess spent <1% of my time using it. So I'm perfectly happy with the X60. The single sign on from the fingerprint reader is really cool. No longer do I have to type the power on password, harddisk password, windows logon password.

If worst comes to worst, you can always use a bluetooth gateway to your cell phone and initiate a dial-up connection that way. Far more flexible than expecting RJ11 at any location you travel to (US or International); no big deal.

Can you post a how-to on how to set this up. I've been meaning to set this up with my MOTO ROKR (T-Mobile) and my Thinkpad t42 with a seperate bluetooth dongle. But i cant seem to find a decent guide.

I called T-MObile to find out whether it would cost me anything if i setup a bluetooth gateway, and they said as long as i used it to connect to a dialup ISP i'd be kosher.

I'd be more than happy to get a dialup ISP at super cheap to get this functionality.

I have Bluetooth built-in on my T43 and I have tried this, and other services, quite successfully on my RAZR. If you have the BT dongle, simply follow the instructions to set it up; make sure to install the software and drivers that came with it and *not* the Microsoft BT stack (the MS BT handler is barren and has no services available, tey have to be configured by the user through COM ports). After that, the software should have a nice little GUI where you can setup the dial-up gateway; as well as various other things.

Have you tried doing that already?

HTH

So you just pay for the dialup ISP and not per minute(data not voice) or per KB/MB with your cellular provider?

What cellular wireless provider do you have? I'll try to get my E398 working when I have a little time over the weekend. I honestly havent even touched the disc that came along with my E398.

Now only to find a dial-up isp for Free or maybe less than 5 bucks a month. This looks promising.

If you can find a cheap ISP, you can just dial-up using your minutes onto the net; the dial-up gateway through Bluetooth uses FTP anyway, so there won't be much of any impact when going through it to, say, download a file or just browse the net.

I don't know about the pay specifics, but I am pretty sure it is not treated like connecting to the Net via their own systems and the phone browser; that would be bizzare. All that is coming over is what would usually come over a phone line should you choose to dial-up through an RJ11. Essentially, are you are doing is "extending" your line, through their connections, and dial into your ISP...After that, it should be via minutes or non-peak time rates. At least that is my understanding from when I tried it last.

I tried it out and I get a suprisingly crisp connection, especially for dial-up. Also, if you have modern Bluetooth and drivers on both the phone and the Thinkpad, you will notice no bottlenecking of the connection either since it usually goes through the phone much faster than it can come through from the ISP.

I have Cingular as a wireless provider for my RAZR; although, if you have a Motorola, you shouldn't need to use the CD that came with it. That contains stuff and utilities for talking back and forth with the phone; which you can already do if you set up the bluetooth dongle and related drivers/software.

HTH

awesome.

Now i just have to find a el-cheapo dialup isp that doesnt require a yearly contract.

My cousin has the Nokia 9300i with T-Mobile and pays them 5 dollars a month for unlimited internet access. Although, seeing as though you can extrapolate that his father paid for the phone and subsequently the GSM/GPRS internet access plan I doubt whether he actually knows the terms of the contract.

So anyone have an recommendations on a SUPER cheap dialup ISP that doesnt require yearly contracts and is based out of the southwest so connection number are faster?

mcgyver wrote:I'm glad these photos are useful.

sco1984, the X60 *comes* with an RJ11 jack. It is on the right side next to the power in jack. Click the photo below to see my note of the location in the picture.

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I have used the X60 for a couple of days. It is really great. Very strongly built and incredibly light (I came from a T-series camp). My only design complaint with the X60 is one of the 4 rubber legs is at the battery. If you use the unit without a battery, it will not stand firmly.

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My X31 has 2 of its 4 rubbers on the battery... image the horror I go by every day

(But still I take it out because I don NOT want to spoil the battery)

Nice pics.
I saw the complete slide show.

The base sure does add thickness, but nice laptop eitherway.

Rob Mayercik wrote: I'm still using dialup, because the cheapest broadband connection I can currently get at home is over $40/month.

Many people would be or already are adopting broadband even at those prices. (myself included).

JHEM wrote: Very few people who use Thinkpads consider the lack of a touchpad in the X series machines to be a "drawback". The Trackpoint is capable of much finer control than the average touchpad and is the preferred device once you become familiar with it.

It would be more fitting to decry the lack of a Trackpoint on those other tablets as the true drawback.

Regards,

James

i 2nd this.... trackpoint is much better than touchpad... the lack of touchpad is better cos it frees up space for a bigger keyboard...

I don't prefer a TrackPoint so much for the more wristpad space as I do for the fact that I don't have to move my hands to switch between using the mouse and keyboard. I find this to make my computing much more efficient.

mcgyver - Go Illini. Your Flickr photos sure make Urbana look like its not in the middle of corn fields.

I work for Atlas and we get most of the professors T42's. One went around us and bought a Z60m (with titanium cover) the other day. It was decent, but I prefer my T42. I would like to play with an X series. But know what's ridiculous? A prof in the Sociology department wants to buy a $3000 Dell laptop.

Nice sheets.

This is a pretty old thread. Thanks for pushing it up. Very good pictures. Thanks for sharing too.

bigtiger wrote:This is a pretty old thread. Thanks for pushing it up. Very good pictures. Thanks for sharing too.

sorry. I was looking for pictures of X60 and didnt realize it was an old thread.

Hello, your pictures are very nice! By the way, I'd like to ask you if this accessory: ThinkPad Second Serial-ATA Hard Disk Drive Adapter(40Y8725) can be fixed in X6 Ultrabase? And is the DVD driver removable? Thanks a lot.