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Has a Thinkpad ever looked so ugly...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:32 am
by iMav
...as in this picture?? :)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:40 am
by Temetka
I think it looks great. That it a nice Mac in the picture as well. What really caught my eye is the wallpaper. Man that is beautiful.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:22 am
by gator
That monitor is HUGE. I have seen pics of that apple cinema display, but never a day-to-day shot like this. I don't know if I am over-awed or slightly freaked out looking at that humongous monitor.

Frankly, does **anyone** (incl. graphics professionals) need such a big monitor?

Re: Has a Thinkpad ever looked so ugly...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:38 am
by brikeh
iMav wrote:...as in this picture?? :)
I seriously think the TP looks way nicer than the Mac Pro/PM in that shot. Its a nice setup tho, no doubt. :cry:

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:34 am
by iMav
gator wrote:Frankly, does **anyone** (incl. graphics professionals) need such a big monitor?
I am considering a new dual display setup for my office when I return hom from Iraq. A dual-30" ACD configuration (with Mac Pro) is under consideration. :)

(my other option is a 24" iMac coupled with another 24" LCD...Perhaps a Dell display.)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:16 am
by Gustavo
Wow! , that monitor costs more than a T43P. But thats hell of alot desktop space.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:37 am
by lilserenity
<picky>That's a PowerMac G5, it's got a single 5.25" external drive bay</picky>

It's nice and I love both the style of Apples (bar the Quicksilver G4 which looked like a chimp's smacked [censored], which is why I own a Digital Audio G4) as well as ThinkPads, although I'm not sold on the missing red accents on the new Lenovo *60 series ThinkPads...

I used to work in an AppleCentre, I would say selling them but I never sold one personally. They are huge, and I can see how for video work they are great but for general use I would find it too big as I would be constantly having to move my head to see the various parts of the picture, or I'd have to sit miles away...

24" Widescreen is a good size to able to see all the screen at once whilst being sat within good proximity of the screen I'd say.

Oh, I would go for the Dell 30" (well the older version I would, the new displays they updated about autumn last year) haven't had great reviews or user experience with colour. The Apple is styled nicer but the Dell is more functional with rotation, VGA, DVI, SVideo, Composite inputs, PiP support and 4 USB 2.0 ports. The Apple does have 2 FireWire ports though...

I'd still have the Dell as I own a Dell 2001FP (20" 1600x1200 4:3) and it's an absolutely cracking display.

But the ThinkPad and PowerMac still look gorgeous, and way to go on the big screen, if you can afford it, why the hell not eh! :)

Vicky

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:38 am
by tomh009
OK, very impressive -- but what do you actually use 48" or 60" of monitor for?

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:41 am
by tomh009
lilserenity wrote:... although I'm not sold on the missing red accents on the new Lenovo *60 series ThinkPads...
I'm thinking a careful application of red nail polish ought to do the trick. I wonder if anyone has tried it?
I'd still have the Dell as I own a Dell 2001FP (20" 1600x1200 4:3) and it's an absolutely cracking display.
I'm looking at the same one right now -- it's a great screen, and IPS, too!

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:53 am
by iMav
tomh009 wrote:OK, very impressive -- but what do you actually use 48" or 60" of monitor for?
I few browers, several VM OS's, and 4-5 xterm windows and they fill up pretty quickly. (especially if you've ALSO got a windowed WoW game going on as well.) :)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:13 am
by lilserenity
I must be getting old but I usually find I can only do one thing at once :)

Anyway Virtual Machine OSs--what VM software would you be using on that PowerMac G5?

vmWare and Parallels are x86 Mac only...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:16 am
by iMav
lilserenity wrote:I must be getting old but I usually find I can only do one thing at once :)

Anyway Virtual Machine OSs--what VM software would you be using on that PowerMac G5?

vmWare and Parallels are x86 Mac only...
That's not MY PowerMac...just a pic I saw on the MacNN forums. Aside from my wife's 17" G5 iMac, all my Macs are Intel. :)

(oh, and I use Parallels BTW)

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:30 am
by cinemafia
lilserenity wrote: Anyway Virtual Machine OSs--what VM software would you be using on that PowerMac G5?
Not that it has anything to do with anything...but you can run VPC on a G5/PPC Mac.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:38 am
by lilserenity
iMav wrote: That's not MY PowerMac...just a pic I saw on the MacNN forums. Aside from my wife's 17" G5 iMac, all my Macs are Intel. :)

(oh, and I use Parallels BTW)
That makes more sense I suppose :) I was going to say if you can get VPC to boot in a non MS OS then that's good going :) Let alone having more than one x86 CPU under emulation at the same time, even on a G5 Quad!

Vicky

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:47 am
by lilserenity
cinemafia wrote: Not that it has anything to do with anything...but you can run VPC on a G5/PPC Mac.
Yes indeed you can but I've never had too much joy with it using OS' other than MS Windows. I can't remember which version I was using but it was not the most recent one and it either just stopped working at irregular points or was dog slow. (And fwiw--a 1.4GHz G4 with 2MB L3 can and does run NT 4 respectably enough all things considered that go into emulation...

Anyway, don't wish to drag this off topic!

Vicky

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:49 am
by cinemafia
lilserenity wrote:
iMav wrote: That's not MY PowerMac...just a pic I saw on the MacNN forums. Aside from my wife's 17" G5 iMac, all my Macs are Intel. :)

(oh, and I use Parallels BTW)
That makes more sense I suppose :) I was going to say if you can get VPC to boot in a non MS OS then that's good going :) Let alone having more than one x86 CPU under emulation at the same time, even on a G5 Quad!

Vicky
I've used VPC for Red Hat before, but it was on a 867Mhz G4 and thus ridonkulously slow. Of course, yes, even on the fastest of the G5's, it wouldn't have been snot compared to Parallels on a MacTel.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:36 pm
by pianowizard
What model is the Thinkpad in that photo? It looks like an X40 or X41.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:15 am
by dsigma6
Ugly? No!

Out of place? YES!!

That's one of the most gorgeous, overpriced monitors ever! Best Buy sells 24"-ish apple monitors for $2000. LOL!

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:54 am
by iMav
dsigma6 wrote:That's one of the most gorgeous, overpriced monitors ever! Best Buy sells 24"-ish apple monitors for $2000. LOL!
That's pretty ridiculous. The 30" Apple displays are $1999 direct from Apple.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:05 am
by pianowizard
iMav wrote:That's pretty ridiculous.
But that was probably a long time ago. Now, Bestbuy.com has the 23" Apple LCD for $1K, the same price as the Apple store's.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:07 am
by snessiram
Guess the most ugly things on that picture must be the keyboard and mouse. I really dislike the mac desktop keyboard design (and the mouse just doesn't fit here).

Like said earlier, such a screen is good for video editing etc. Things that DO ask a lot of screen space. (or for giant spreadsheets, various browsers for webdesign testing,...)

I think the thinkpad fits very well.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:22 am
by dsigma6
It probably takes a hundred dead pixels to get an exchange on that big guy!

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:36 am
by iMav
pianowizard wrote:What model is the Thinkpad in that photo? It looks like an X40 or X41.
I asked in the thread and someone said an R51. (I have no idea is that is correct)

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:13 am
by tfflivemb2
I think PianoWizard is correct....I think it is an X series. The R51 would be much larger and thicker...using the mouse for comparison size.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:33 am
by tomh009
It's definitely an X40 or X41. The shape of the top of the lid matches the X40/X41, but not the R5 series (or the X3 series). Also, you can see the model logo just to the right of the left-hand hinge, where the X4 series has it.

And, of course, the X60 doesn't have the red TrackPoint buttons. :(

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:51 pm
by revolutionary_one
Proof that even the fanciest hardware doesn't deliver.
It's what you do with it.

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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:56 am
by iMav
revolutionary_one wrote:Proof that even the fanciest hardware doesn't deliver.
It's what you do with it.
I guess I don't really get the point. That looks to be a fairly meager setup. If he was sitting in front of a very fancy setup, your point would be well made. :)

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:17 pm
by nxman
ThinkPad is the most beautiful and elegant notebook money can buy!

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:01 am
by Troels

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:27 am
by pianowizard
Wow, I think the one on the right is the 22" IBM T221, which has by far the highest resolution ever: 3840x2400!!! But it's no longer made. One can go blind using that LCD! The one on the left is of course the 30" Apple Cinema LCD, which has the highest res currently available, 2560x1600.