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JHEM · #1 Post by **JHEM** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:19 am

My new 7664-17U T61 next to my 2373-GEU T41p and 2623-DDU T60p.

James

Purcy · #2 Post by **Purcy** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:25 am

Congratulations on the new child James, you certainly got a good choice of screen sizes. For some reason, I like the one in the middle best.

Turbo Audi · #3 Post by **Turbo Audi** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:43 am

Is the right hinge on the middle one much smaller? I think it is?

James: Links don't work.

#4 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:49 am

James, glad to hear your up and about and playing with these beautiful toys!!! Nice pictures. I'll take the one in the middle

rleo25 · #5 Post by **rleo25** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:01 pm

James congrats on your new baby...enjoy it!. Well you die-hard IBM loyalists... um.. certainly the best designed laptop is the T41 (the one in the middle)... but look at its screen image quality... it is the poorest, and no talk about the innards and whole performance... I would take the new T61 too!!! (right corner) and long life to Lenovo....

pianowizard · #6 Post by **pianowizard** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:12 pm

Turbo Audi wrote:James: Links don't work.

Lenovo and IBM have somehow made it very hard to bookmark their sites. I've had this problem dozens of times.

rleo25 wrote:but look at its screen image quality... it is the poorest.

It's just set to a lower intensity.

Torque · #7 Post by **Torque** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:26 pm

Congrats on the new machinery

#8 Post by **ryengineer** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:00 pm

Except the fat monster, I like all the machines.

#9 Post by **gator** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:03 pm

The T60p and T41p are badass! Excellent pic, James!

Turbo Audi · #10 Post by **Turbo Audi** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:19 pm

X60s should be next on the list James. "Unlimited" battery life.

Tholek · #11 Post by **Tholek** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:35 pm

Great pic, but again, I wish you could go wider and get the whole T61 in there. The oft maligned screen offset is non-existent in your photo.

Having all of iit alongside the others will really show how much the difference is.

#12 Post by **BillMorrow** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:03 am

i don't care for the wide bezel on the T61..
but i can only see the left half of the T61..

JHEM · #13 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:53 am

BillMorrow wrote:i don't care for the wide bezel on the T61..
but i can only see the left half of the T61..

How's this?

James

JHEM · #14 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:56 am

Turbo Audi wrote:Is the right hinge on the middle one much smaller? I think it is?

Indicative of the 14.1" display models, one of the hinges is less than half the thickness of the other.

Links work for me.

James

JHEM · #15 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:58 am

pianowizard wrote:It's just set to a lower intensity.

It's cranked up all the way! I think it's just a case of the backlight dimming with time and usage, time for a new display.

James

JHEM · #16 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:01 am

Turbo Audi wrote:X60s should be next on the list James. "Unlimited" battery life.

That's something to look forward to. The battery life on the T61 is abysmal so far, it wouldn't even standby for more than about 8 hours! I must have something set incorrectly.

James

Turbo Audi · #17 Post by **Turbo Audi** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 12:05 pm

JHEM wrote:
Turbo Audi wrote:X60s should be next on the list James. "Unlimited" battery life.
That's something to look forward to. The battery life on the T61 is abysmal so far, it wouldn't even standby for more than about 8 hours! I must have something set incorrectly.

James

Yes, perhaps. On my X60s I made my own power schemes. After 36 cycles at 5/7 brightness with wireless on, at the moment it says I have 8 hours left. Realistically I'd cut that number to 6ish. When it was new 9+ easy.

8 hours of standby is not so solid.

JHEM · #18 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:50 pm

Turbo Audi wrote:8 hours of standby is not so solid.

Especially when you're used to 8 days or so Pete.

James

#19 Post by **rkawakami** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:25 pm

Turbo Audi wrote:Links don't work.

Try this link first and then the original ones should work:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... ry=766417U

The "sitestyle=lenovo" string will deposit a cookie which should allow the links to work again.

kulivontot · #20 Post by **kulivontot** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:16 am

hmmm did not realize the bezel around the screen of the T61 was so wide. That seems odd for some reason.

JHEM · #21 Post by **JHEM** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:29 am

kulivontot wrote:hmmm did not realize the bezel around the screen of the T61 was so wide. That seems odd for some reason.

I would hazard a guess that it's to prevent flexing of the display. All of the widescreen laptops I've seen, which is not many, appear to have a wider than expected display bezel.

James

#22 Post by **gator** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:52 am

JHEM wrote: I would hazard a guess that it's to prevent flexing of the display. All of the widescreen laptops I've seen, which is not many, appear to have a wider than expected display bezel.
James

Flexing even with the LCD rollcage present? I don't think so ... it is for accomodating the antenna ... and AFAIK, the T60p widescreen has a normal looking bezel.

pianowizard · #23 Post by **pianowizard** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:02 am

gator wrote:it is for accomodating the antenna

But how much room does that require? Are they using a big fat antenna to optimize reception?

#24 Post by **gator** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:26 am

pianowizard wrote: But how much room does that require? Are they using a big fat antenna to optimize reception?

Nothing mentioned officially, but thats what I would guess looking at the pic below ... or maybe they decided to stick the WWAN antenna inside, and leave it "empty" for machines without it, so that they can have a single line for the machines:

Someone gotta compare a T61 and dell e1405 for the size of the LCD casing ...

#25 Post by **underclocker** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:03 am

Congrats on the beautiful family.

Your pictures really illustrate very well the con that is occurring to the uninformed consumer.

A 14" widescreen is much smaller than a 14" normal screen. It is actually few square inches and makes it harder to use just about every application except for spreadsheets. It's the same height as a 12", like the X60, etc.

For many, widescreen (unless you go up in size) is no upgrade.

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