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My G41 compared with S30, R50p, T42, nc2400 etc [MANY PIX!]

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:42 am
by pianowizard
I just bought a G41 with these specs:

Product: ThinkPad G41 2886-79U

Original description: P4-M 548, 1GB RAM, 80GB 5400rpm HDD, 15 SXGA+(1400x1050) TFT LCD, 128MB nVIDIA GeForce FX Go5200, CD-RW/DVD-R Multi-Burner, IBM 802.11b/g wireless(MPCI), Modem(CDC), 1Gb Ethernet(LOM), 12 cell Li-Ion battery, WinXP Pro

The laptop alone (excluding the AC adapter) weighs 8.43 pounds!!!! Here are some photos comparing it with some of the other laptops I currently have:

The most interesting comparison is with the smallest Thinkpad ever made, namely the S30:

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HP nc2400 (with optical drive replaced with a Thinkpad travel bezel), R50p, and G41:

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14.1" T42, 15.0" T43p, and T41:

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G41 versus R50p AC adapters:

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R50p QXGA Flexview screen versus G41 SXGA+ TN screen:

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The G41 has a black trackpoint:

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**13 Aug 2008 UPDATE: S30 photos added!

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:16 am
by Puppy
G stands for giant here :-) Good pictures, especially those two comparing displays. It should become standard wallpaper on Lenovo managers computers :D

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:50 am
by gator
Holy Jeebus, that laptop is truly massive. Even the AC adapter is so huge!

Thanks for the pics PW.

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:09 am
by kunfuchopsticks
wow what a difference on the screens. What does TN stand for in the bad screen?

Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:57 am
by The Spirit of X21
TN stands for twisted nematic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD

It's not that TN displays are bad per se; they are the most common LCDs found in notebooks. It's just that the IPSs are so wonderful in comparison :)

Awesome pictures, Kwoon. I can't wait to drop by the apartment and see them.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:05 am
by Temetka
That side by side top-down view is a great visual representation of the differences between the 2 LCD types.

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:39 pm
by j-dawg
"It's headed for that small moon!"

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:02 pm
by AlphaKilo470
That T42 looks like an ultraportable compared to the G41.

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 pm
by gunston
T is the best

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:36 am
by schen
Awesome comparison pictures. I feel a lot better about my Ts, Rs and even As now.
gator wrote:Holy Jeebus, that laptop is truly massive. Even the AC adapter is so huge!

Thanks for the pics PW.
I have a couple of these adapter that came with the Advanced Port Replicator and yes they are Ginormous! I feel almost feel ♦like they could power my desktop!

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:20 am
by pianowizard
I just added three photos to my first post in this thread comparing this G41 with my newly acquired S30, i.e. the biggest versus the smallest! Enjoy!

Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:13 pm
by Spimoles
Wow and I thought the A31p I used to own was big. That G is a beast! I'm curious about the battery life of that thing, just enough to lug it from desk to desk?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:08 pm
by underclocker
Love the pix. The G41 is a desktop wearing a ThinkPad costume. Imagine wipping that guy out at a meeting. The fan is so huge it would probably suck the window curtains in at boot up. I bet that AC adapter weighs as much as an X40. NICE! (I've got to get one!)

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:38 am
by pianowizard
underclocker wrote:(I've got to get one!)
I highly recommend you and everyone else to try to find/buy one to play with. I bought it locally two months ago, intending to play with it for a few days just to see what the heaviest Thinkpad felt like, and then selling it. But I enjoyed using it so much that I decided to keep it. What I like most about the G41 is how solid it feels, especially the palmrest. Also, it has the 3.33GHz Pentium 4 processor and feels very responsive -- Vista Home Premium with SP1 runs smoothly even with only 1GB of PC2700 RAM. In terms of CPU, this G41 is the second fastest computer I've ever had as determined by the PCMark2002 CPU benchmark:

T43p, 2.26GHz Pentium M: 7463
G41, 3.33GHz Pentium 4: 6908
Sony Vaio PCG-K23, 2.8GHz Pentium 4: 6274
X60s, 1.66GHz Core Duo: 5679
T60, 1.66GHz Core Duo: 5651

While the screen resolution of 1400x1050 is not enough for displaying many windows at once, it's good enough for casual internet browsing, which is the main purpose of this G41 (it has an excellent Atheros card). And the relatively low pixel density of 116.7 DPI makes things look comfortably big. It's not a Flexview screen, however, so the viewing angle is not so wide, as illustrated in some of the photos above. But it's better than some other TN screens I've seen.

IMO, the G40 and G41 are ideal for people who are looking for an inexpensive laptop that's very solid and powerful, and has a large screen with a reasonably high resolution and quality (although many models only have XGA). I much prefer it over the R50p even though the R50p has Flexview. The R50p squeaks all over the place and flexes rather easily, and I think it's typically $50 - $100 more expensive than the G41. The main deal breaker for many people is that the G41 weighs about 8.4 lb, but in my view, any laptop over 5 lb shouldn't be moved around much anyway and should serve as a desktop replacement, so whether it's 5.01 or 15 lb makes no difference to me.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:12 pm
by kosse
Thanks for the great photos. That G41 sure is a monster :)

pianowizard wrote: In terms of CPU, this G41 is the second fastest computer I've ever had as determined by the PCMark2002 CPU benchmark:
Well, judging from the results it looks like that PCMark 2002 is unable to detect or utilise dual core processors properly i.e. it only runs the test using one core.

P4 3,33GHZ is ,however, without a doubt a very fast processor when running applications that are optimized for single core and there aren't too many heavy background processes running.