Thinkpad Fan Noise Problem: Light at the End of the Tunnel

[gunston]

no more updates?

[troubadix]

any probs?

[gunston]

any probs?

the prob is :
no continuous improvement/ enhancement for the FanControl.

[sveintore]

any probs?

The program window won't show in Vista (but the service runs and works great, according to the log).

But I'd like to watch the temps live

[vital-analitix]

Has anyone tried using this on a Z61m? Want to reduce the temperature on my machine by letting the fan run faster after "cooking" my A31 (had replaced the CPU with a 2.6 Ghz P4m....running the temperature up to 75 C and then the CPU would start to throttle down. unfortunately other components did over time not like this temp and started to give intermittend problems before dying completely)

Thanks, Marinus

[troubadix]

Hi!

The program window won't show in Vista (but the service runs and works great, according to the log). But I'd like to watch the temps live

Unfortunately I'm not running Vista, but to have a quick solution
that may work for running Vista change settings (fancontrol.ini):

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StartMinimized=0
MinimizeToSysTray=0

program should come up with window open and is minimized to taskbar showing max. temperature. Only minimize, don't close it , program is stopped! In this case you have to doubleclick C:\tpfancontrol\restart.bat

Ciao, troubadix

[sveintore]

Hi!

The program window won't show in Vista (but the service runs and works great, according to the log). But I'd like to watch the temps live

Unfortunately I'm not running Vista, but to have a quick solution
that may work for running Vista change settings (fancontrol.ini):

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StartMinimized=0
MinimizeToSysTray=0

program should come up with window open and is minimized to taskbar showing max. temperature. Only minimize, don't close it , program is stopped! In this case you have to doubleclick C:\tpfancontrol\restart.bat

Ciao, troubadix

This is the only thing that shows:

[Window Title]
Interactive services dialog detection

[Main Instruction]
A program can't display a message on your desktop

[Content]
The program may need information or permission to complete a task.
Why does this happen?

[V] Show program details [Show me the message] [Remind me in a few minutes]

[Expanded Information]
Program(s) or devices(s) requesting attention.

Message title: Thinkpad T60 Fan Control V0.19svc
Program path: c:\tpfancontrol\fancontrol_service.exe
Received: ‎2. ‎februar ‎2007, ‏‎21:10:56

This problem happens because of partial incompatibility with Windows Vista.
Please contact the program or device manufacturer(s) for more information.

Edit: "Show me the message" only gives me a blank screen..

[vital-analitix]

any probs?

The program window won't show in Vista (but the service runs and works great, according to the log).

But I'd like to watch the temps live

I don't have Vista ( and am trying to stay away from it as long as possible ) but is there not something with it that if there is not recognized hardware / software that it will eventually be turned off by the OS?

In this light I would be very wary about homegrown software......

Marinus

[troubadix]

Hi!

This is the only thing that shows:

[Window Title]
Interactive services dialog detection

[Main Instruction]
A program can't display a message on your desktop

[Content]
The program may need information or permission to complete a task.
Why does this happen?

[V] Show program details [Show me the message] [Remind me in a few minutes]

[Expanded Information]
Program(s) or devices(s) requesting attention.

Message title: Thinkpad T60 Fan Control V0.19svc
Program path: c:\tpfancontrol\fancontrol_service.exe
Received: ‎2. ‎februar ‎2007, ‏‎21:10:56

This problem happens because of partial incompatibility with Windows Vista.
Please contact the program or device manufacturer(s) for more information.

Edit: "Show me the message" only gives me a blank screen..

you must "allow service to interact with desktop" (checkbox on properties of service) as shown in:

Session 0 Changes and Vista Compatibility for Services running as Interactive with Desktop
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=263925

Ciao, troubadix

[sveintore]

Hi!
you must "allow service to interact with desktop" (checkbox on properties of service) as shown in:

Session 0 Changes and Vista Compatibility for Services running as Interactive with Desktop
http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=263925

Ciao, troubadix

Already checked..

But I watched the video and I get it now, removed the minimize to system tray and start minimized, and I can watch the window at least

(but still, this is no good solution)

[troubadix]

(but still, this is no good solution)

minding the lost systray icon I created a beta version with an embedded manifest for Vista:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/librar ... sta_topic8

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... 20beta.zip

Unzip to any place and keep your usual version of tpfc running. You can test the betaversion by double clicking betatest.bat (of courses also with the minimize to system tray and start minimized option, if you change settings and restart) and return to your usual version by double clicking testend.bat

may be that helps (I'm not running Vista)

Ciao, troubadix

[sveintore]

(but still, this is no good solution)

minding the lost systray icon I created a beta version with an embedded manifest for Vista:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/librar ... sta_topic8

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... 20beta.zip

may be that helps (I'm not running Vista)

Ciao, troubadix

Sorry to report that this gives the same result, the interactive services-window.

I'm no programmer so sorry if I say anything dumb..

But isn't it possible to split the two programs?
One service and one frontend that collects data from the service and presents them in the systray. Would that work around the problem?

[troubadix]

..taking all of those and further, now yet unknown difficulties into account, i guess it's the best way to operate the original Shimodax 18b version as local vista application to see the program work. And if you like to switch you can even use the same .ini-file, stop the service and start the local prog by executing batch files from desktop like:

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svc2exe.bat:

net stop TPFanControl
c:\tpfancontrol\fancontrol.exe

stop exe by closing window

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svc.bat:

net start TPFanControl

copy fancontrol.exe, svc2exe.bat and svc.bat to c:\tpfancontrol\ and make a link for the .bat-files to desktop.

As I mentioned above, tested only for XP

Ciao, troubadix

[sveintore]

This works much better
I'm the only user, I'm always logged on, and when program not running, the bios takes over control of the fans, right?

Thank you very much

Edit: just to make things right about vista..
When running the bat-files, you have to right-click and select "run as administrator" because of the vista-security

But for now I just put a shortcut to the V0.18 in my startup folder and finally I can see my temperatures.

[skanky]

do you still get the ACPIEC errors in the event log in vista as you do in XP?

[troubadix]

...when program not running, the bios takes over control of the fans, right?

that's right.

Just another hint from MS:

Known Issues of UAC and Resolutions:

Problem:
Applications started with a full administrator access token do not show up on the taskbar

Resolution:
Start system tray (systray.exe) from an elevated command prompt.
Use the Alt tab to switch between active programs and select one of the elevated programs.

troubadix

[namezero]

How can I turn off logging of tpfancontrol?

For latest version 0.18 it keeps writing to fancontrol.log whenever there's a change in fan speed. Since I'm using a rather slow/old laptop, fan speed varies a lot. That might just prevent hard drive from stopping at all.

Or does it write to fancontrol.log only when tpfancontrol shuts down peacefully?

I'm running tpfancontrol on T23 and with Windows XP.

Thank you.

[troubadix]

How can I turn off logging of tpfancontrol?

For latest version 0.18 it keeps writing to fancontrol.log whenever there's a change in fan speed. Since I'm using a rather slow/old laptop, fan speed varies a lot. That might just prevent hard drive from stopping at all.

Or does it write to fancontrol.log only when tpfancontrol shuts down peacefully?

I'm running tpfancontrol on T23 and with Windows XP.

Sorry, there is no builtin option to switch off logging yet, and it's logging everytime fan status changes. But I use these settings on my T23 with WinXP:

IconLevels=65 85 95
Level=55 0
Level=65 1
Level=85 7
Level=95 64

switching is not so often and works well. Pentium IIIm is supposed to switch off, when it's getting over 100°C. That never happened to my T23.

troubadix

[troubadix]

Just a Fahrenheit version of the tpfcontrol_service:

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... vc_far.zip

(all temps in °F, new design of main window )

Ciao, troubadix

[namezero]

Sorry, there is no builtin option to switch off logging yet, and it's logging everytime fan status changes. But I use these settings on my T23 with WinXP:

IconLevels=65 85 95
Level=55 0
Level=65 1
Level=85 7
Level=95 64

switching is not so often and works well. Pentium IIIm is supposed to switch off, when it's getting over 100°C. That never happened to my T23.

troubadix

Oh well with the flood of ACPIEC warning message in System Log, I don't think the hard drive will ever get a chance to idle anyway. Unless there's option to turn off the logging and ACPIEC warning doesn't show up, the hard drive will contine to spin.

Thanks for your reply.

[troubadix]

Oh well with the flood of ACPIEC warning message in System Log, I don't think the hard drive will ever get a chance to idle anyway. Unless there's option to turn off the logging and ACPIEC warning doesn't show up, the hard drive will contine to spin.

There is a workaround to stop ACPIEC warning messages, just download the file from my signature and proceed as in readme.txt:

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4. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> optional:


  a) to stop acpi-embedded-controler from spamming system.log
     switch to acpi-embedded-controler with NoLog-Option
     "acpiecnl.sys" instead of original "acpiec.sys"

       double click on:  instecnl.bat

       double click on:  acpiecLogOff.reg  

       confirm the registry change and reboot.

     Attention: now no error is reported from acpiec!


  b) to switch back to original embedded-controler "acpiec.sys"

       double click on:  acpiecLogOn.reg   

       confirm the registry change and reboot.

     c:\windows\system32\drivers\acpiecnl.sys  remains, 
     don't mind or delete by hand after switching back (4b)

imo tpfcontrol logging is not the reason for keeping HDD from spining down.

troubadix

[namezero]

Thanks troubadix.

I followed the guide on that ACPIEC help page and changed to acpiecnolog.sys for now. All ACPIEC warnings (along with errors) are gone for now. Not a perfect solution but I guess I can have a useful system log again.

Will see if that solves the hard drive idle problem. If not and if I'm very bored, maybe I'll take a look at tpfancontrol source. Oh wait that looks like C++ code... blah haven't touched real programming for years.

Oh I think I've just found out segment for logging to the text file. Now being a complete idiot to coding, how do I re-compile that thing after I modified the codes? Anyone knows which compiler was used to compile tpfancontrol?

/edit: Never mind. Someone told me it was done in Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 .

[troubadix]

I followed the guide on that ACPIEC help page and changed to acpiecnolog.sys for now.

For any unknown reason that didn't do the job on my T23 and A30. I had to rename it to a 8 letter name "acpiecnl.sys" . That worked.

Yes, it's MS Visual Studio 6.0 . I did the changes with the express edition (free of charge ).

troubadix

[namezero]

Yes, it's MS Visual Studio 6.0 . I did the changes with the express edition (free of charge ).

troubadix

Did the change... what change have you done? You've a version that's free of logging? Anywhere I can download it? (drooling)

/start looking at Visual Studio Express Edition

Does Visual C++ 2005 Express produce compatible code for Windows 2000/XP using the same 6.0 source?

[troubadix]

You've a version that's free of logging? Anywhere I can download it?

Does Visual C++ 2005 Express produce compatible code for Windows 2000/XP using the same 6.0 source?

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... rnolog.zip

Just did it real time as you requested, so it's a fahrenheit edition

Express edition means more coding by hand, no resource editor, but it produces Win32-Code (Win2000, XP, Vista) using also VS 6.0 source

troubadix

edit (midnite in old Europe,bye ):

Did the change... what change have you done?

in misc.cpp I made three lines to comments:

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	FILE *flog= fopen("fancontrol.log", "ab");
	// if (flog) {
	//	fwrite(line, strlen(line), 1, flog); 
	//	fclose(flog);
	// }

[billyrom]

Any chance of celsius version without logging?

Thanks

billyrom

[namezero]

Any chance of celsius version without logging?

Thanks

billyrom

I'm trying to make one, with option to turn it on/off in fancontrol.ini . Don't give high hopes though as I don't even know how to code object oriented programming.

/edit
ARRRRR I don't know how to convert the source on offical tpfancontrol from standalone application to a service. So far using the offical source I was able to create a version that allows turning on/off logging through options in fancontrol.ini . Any one knows how to convert it into a service?

[troubadix]

Any one knows how to convert it into a service?

emaijala did it :
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... ht=#126440

http://www.kolumbus.fi/emaijala/fancontrol_service.zip

troubadix

edit: just anotherway is via Srvany.exe (Windows NT 4.0 Resource Kits) as I have done in (different tool):

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... rolsvc.zip

google for srvany.doc

[troubadix]

Any chance of celsius version without logging?

fancontrol.ini:
Log2File=1 enables, Log2File=0 disables writing to fancontrol.log

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... _nolog.zip

[namezero]

Any chance of celsius version without logging?

fancontrol.ini:
Log2File=1 enables, Log2File=0 disables writing to fancontrol.log

http://staff-www.uni-marburg.de/~schmit ... _nolog.zip

You rock!

Maybe that should be posted as v0.19 of offical tpfancontrol on sourceforge? Or it's already on sourceforge CVS?

Anyway thanks for the update!