T23 usb boot times

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T23 usb boot times

#1 Post by JBUK » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:45 am

I have a few usb sticks that I boot from occasionally on my Thinkpads.
Things like Acronis Drive Image and Disk Director, Paragon Disk Manager, AOMEI Partition Manager, GParted, BartsPE and a good old DOS boot with a few tools included like Partition Magic, MBR Tool.......

When I put any of these in a T60 they boot up in 10 to 37 seconds except for gparted which takes 83 seconds.
However in the T23 they take forever to boot, in fact the first few times I gave up thinking the Usb stick was faulty.
The dos boot is fine at 20 seconds. But the others are terrible in fact some wont boot successfully at all. Acronis DD takes 5 minutes and AOMEI 33 minutes !!
I know its only USB 1.1 but the dos boot works ok and thats with loading usb2 drivers too.
I haven't tried actually creating a boot usb on the T23 yet but has anyone else found this or indeed have any ideas to speed things up ??
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Re: T23 usb boot times

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:09 am

Try moving USB to the top in the BIOS boot-sequence.
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Re: T23 usb boot times

#3 Post by pmiller056 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:03 am

The Usb ports on the T23 are USB 1.1, NOT 2.0 or later. A modern
USB 2.0 device will only operate at USB 1.1 speeds when plugged in
to the T23 and similar systems.
Data transfer speeds are by todays standards very slow, so you
will see very long boot times if you boot from a USB device on the
T23. You would get on better if you booted from a CD or DVD instead.
(Note that there are compatibility issues with some of the T23
generation DVD drives and DVD types - check the manuals to see
what works before buying a load of disks).

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Re: T23 usb boot times

#4 Post by twistero » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:53 pm

USB1.1 is that slow. :roll:
DOS boots relatively quickly because DOS files are tiny compared to the other live systems you mentioned.
Case in point: the Parted Magic live Linux environment has a 3MB kernel, 65MB initrd, and a 235MB squashfs. At the theoretical max throughput of USB1.1 which is 1.5MB/s, (and of course real world speeds will never be that fast), it will take 45 seconds to load the kernel and initrd so that the system can even start booting. And then it takes 156 seconds to copy the entire squashfs to memory.
Compare that to a DOS environment, where all the files necessary for boot can probably fit in a couple of floppy disks. :roll:
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