DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

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DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

#1 Post by tpprynn » Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:34 pm

After much experimentation I've decided to stick with Windows 2000 on my eBay bargain T22. Everything works better than with XP (still comparatively laggy even if setup 'like' W2K) or various Linux. The laptop is mostly used as a word processor and DVD player but a couple of times during a film it will freeze for under a second, then play jerkily for a few seconds. The DVD software is Mediamatics DVD Express. In BIOS I have the drive set to 'silent' mode which from one point of view is desirable but maybe the silence hits performance? What else might I do to end the glitchiness? I've turned to Manual services which can be - I had wondered if a service was in operation during the jerky moments. I have the Presentation setting in Power Options. The DVDs are mint.

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Re: DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

#2 Post by Penultimate » Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:51 am

I have a thrift shop T23, which is basically a slightly different processor version of your computer, and from my exp so far, the Mediamatics DVD Express software that installs from the IBM restore disc is NOT something I would use to gauge the DVD capabilities of the computer.

The reason I say that is, while KM Player (free) and VLC Player (free) will both play .mkv files, DVD discs, and both also will play homemade DVD+RW discs I burned on the T23,

the much older Mediamatics sofware that installs from the IBM Restore disc could not play the homemade DVD+RW, even though the disc was created on that computer.

Both the KM/VLC software can play the disc, on the same computer. The Mediamatics sofware is so old at this point and was created at the advent of DVD adoption, that it may have power management issues or codec issues that were long ago smoothed out in more recent versions of other software.

Download the latest VLC player and see if your disc stuttering or stoppage goes away, and if it does, you know its simply a issue with the old mediamatics software, which probably has not had a update since roughly 2001. You have nothing to lose, because VLC is totally free and its really the best software I have found for any general media files, DVD movies, or audio discs. KM Player is the smoothest at MKV files that seem to tax the processor with some other media player software on slower processor computers,

The really strange issue I am having is-
While the DVD+RW I created on the T23 with the multi burner WILL play with both KM Player and VLC Player software on my computer (but not mediamatics/ibm player), the same disc will NOT play in either my standalone DVD player or in my fairly new Blu-Ray player,.. both of which normally will play any burned DVD movie disc.

I cannot figure out why the two software players will play the disc with no problem but it cannot even start with either my standalone component players.

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Re: DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

#3 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:38 am

Is the DVD-RW regionalized (perhaps by accident) or maybe not finalized?

Just as with CD players, some DVD (and apparently BD) players are sensitive to discs made on our computers. I run into this all the time with my older (90s era) car CD players on exact copies of commercial CDs.

You get best results using the slowest burn rate, and the best quality blank media (although that is sometimes hard to determine)...

And yes the Mediamatics player is ancient. I don't use my t22s or 23s for watching DVDs any more, but at one time that was all I had.
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Re: DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

#4 Post by Penultimate » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:05 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:Is the DVD-RW regionalized (perhaps by accident) or maybe not finalized?
Just as with CD players, some DVD (and apparently BD) players are sensitive to discs made on our computers. I run into this all the time with my older (90s era) car CD players on exact copies of commercial CDs.
You get best results using the slowest burn rate, and the best quality blank media (although that is sometimes hard to determine)...
And yes the Mediamatics player is ancient. I don't use my t22s or 23s for watching DVDs any more, but at one time that was all I had.
Hey Mike..

I actually came across a solution of sorts-
I just halved the burn speed to 4x, which is still twice the native speed the ultrabay 2000 original drive would have been limited to, and the same mkv file converted to DVD .VOB structure played fine in my blu ray and in my dvd standalone player.

For some reason the software players on my computers could still handle the 8x burned DVD disk, but some disc structure may have been altered or corrupted at the higher speed that the standalone players could not handle. They would not even start the disc.

I would say that possibly the T23 seems limited to 4x DVD burn speed (at least when using the slim multi drive with the ultrabay 2000 adapter) if you want to ensure a functional disc in standalone players. It could also be a issue with disc verification however, because for some reason the T23 would hang when I checked the 'verify disc after burning' box.

Maybe there is a data bottleneck when using the newer slim multi drive with the ultrabay 2000 adapter that starts to corrupt when you run it faster than 4x. In any event, its still 2x faster this way than it would have been with the ultrabay 2000 multi drive, so I am happy with the (slower) solution.

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Re: DVD glitches (w2k/ Mediamatics DVD Express) T22

#5 Post by cadillacmike68 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:17 pm

My Fleetwood has rejected or mis-played so many discs that I just burn at the slowest possible setting. I have several computers and can always fire up another If I need to do something while making a disc.

That's another thing. For best results don't do Anything that could suck up CPU while you are making a CD or DVD.

I'll give the old mediamatics player one credit though. It doesn't kill sending to two outputs at once like that [censored] player that was bundled with TPs loaded with XP (winDVD??). That thing wouldn't let me output to a TV. I had to use WMPlayer to do it, and had to make an obscure settings change to WMP to get that to work.
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