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Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

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Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#1 Post by danikayser84 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:13 pm

I recently revived my ThinkPad T23 with a Transcend 32GB SSD and Windows 98SE and plan on using it for old DOS and Windows 9x games, but I wanted to check in here as to whether the Crystal CS4299 supports SBPro/SB16 emulation (been a while since I used it and don't remember off the top of my head; I do know the T20-T22 do but was unsure of the T23)

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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#2 Post by rkawakami » Sat Aug 27, 2016 5:51 pm

According to the tabook of the day, the T23 has this as audio support: Soft audio / ICH AC97 controller / SoundBlaster compatible / CS4299 AC97 codec
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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#3 Post by danikayser84 » Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:26 pm

Well, I couldn't get any DOS games to work (I tried both the 95OSR2/98 VXD version and the 98SE/ME WDM version of the driver and it would hang the computer if I tried to run a game, no matter if I selected SBPro or SB16; I did check my "SET BLASTER" in autoexec.bat and tried the cwcdos.exe from the T22 but neither worked)... fortunately I do have a ThinkPad 560Z which is working well for my DOS games collection, sound and all :)
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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#4 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:35 am

1. Try the earlier non-WDM driver

2. AFAIK, the Crystal Soundfusion CS4610,4624, 4280 and, 4281 were the last ones that had DOS Soundblaster compatibility support.
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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#5 Post by danikayser84 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:47 pm

Yep, figured it out that the CS4299 chipset does not support SBPro/SB16 DOS emulation (IBM's tawbook must have been mistaken), neither under the VXD driver nor the WDM; will still use the T23 for Windows 98/95 games but fortunately I do have other ThinkPads (Pentium II era and earlier) that will work (I chose the 560Z for its portability myself)
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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#6 Post by Kasm279 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:32 am

I can tell you from experience that the T23 (unlike the T22) offers no Sound Blaster support at all. It's rather annoying.
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Re: Does T23 audio support Sound Blaster Pro/16 emulation?

#7 Post by micrex22 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:44 am

There is one way... although it would be expensive.

Yamaha did release some PCMCIA sound modules / so that at least would give you Adlib support. However, the only one that I saw on ebay was for $100, and someone has since purchased it.

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