recurring pressure spots?

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recurring pressure spots?

#1 Post by jb_007clone » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:37 pm

hey people!

all right, i've recently purchased a t20 with white, pressure spots (knowingly) and at first i didn't mind them so much but lately i've been thinking about replacing the lcd. i know this problem is caused by pressure from the cover on the back of the lcd. the infamous pyramid grid pattern from the inside of the case is clearly evident in the marks. basically i am just wondering if i purchase a new lcd and a replacement cover how likely are the spots to recur?

some questions:

1) is the pyramid grid design on the inside of the cover utilized on newer models (ie. the r50, etc?)

2) is it "safe" to perhaps put something thin (a metal plate or foam sheet or something) between the lcd and the grid?

3) owners of new/prestine t20s, assuming i get a new lcd panel and lcd cover, is closing the case with one hand on the top lid enough to create marks?

any answers to any of the questions would be greatly appreciated. thanks!
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Re: recurring pressures spots?

#2 Post by tfflivemb2 » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:56 pm

jb_007clone wrote:2) is it "safe" to perhaps put something thin (a metal plate or foam sheet or something) between the lcd and the grid?
Funny that you mention this. That "grid" was what I had to shave down to get an i1400 LCD to fit into a T20, without pressing the back of the LCD and creating a liquid effect.

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#3 Post by jb_007clone » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:14 am

i wonder why they even decided on the hard grid pattern when they were designing the laptop rather than some sort of uniform plate or foam.

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#4 Post by tp23 » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:34 pm

i wonder why they even decided on the hard grid pattern
It makes the lid stonger and maintains its shape, you dont want the lid to flex or warp.

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#5 Post by christopher_wolf » Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:19 pm

Cushioning works only if there is nothing sharp impacting the lid, but rather a large area is affected by continuous pressue.
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#6 Post by jb_007clone » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:07 pm

thanks for the info so far guys. basically all i want to know at this point is if it's worth it to purchase a new lcd panel + lid if the problem stands a good chance of happening again. this is my first thinkpad and i don't know what sort of punishment the previous owner put it through but i can assure you i won't be slamming the thing shut or anything. will the spots return with normal use?

or should i just save up and buy a new r series model or something so i am guaranteed that the spots won't be an issue?

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#7 Post by jb_007clone » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:03 pm

no one can tell me how likely pressure spots are to occur with a T2X model?

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#8 Post by Orevin » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:11 pm

I would say, chances are at least 50/50, if not higher, and you should not be surpised to see the spots again.

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#9 Post by jb_007clone » Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:49 pm

hmm... i really don't like the sound of those odds. i guess i'll just save up for a new laptop rather than try to repair this one.

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#10 Post by lithium726 » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:34 am

i took a pair of pliers and a dremel and tore that crap out of the new T20 series lid i bought for my T23, which did not have those. now it looks new and doesnt make the screen look as if something is pushing it every time i move the lid.
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#11 Post by jb_007clone » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:17 pm

hey lithium726 i might give that a try. question though, if the t23 lid doesn't have the grid pattern in the back why didn't you just buy a new t23 lid instead of a t20? are t23 lids hard to find?

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#12 Post by lithium726 » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:18 pm

becuase the T20 lid was NIB and IBM charges over 250 bucks for that. I didnt feel like waiting and searching for a NIB T23 lid, haha... NIB lids rarely, if ever, pop up on ebay, so it was a rare opertunity to return my T23 to like new condition :)
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#13 Post by jb_007clone » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:14 pm

right right. well if the t23 lids don't have the grid in them then i'm off to purchase one for my t20. thanks again everybody for the info/help!

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#14 Post by awdark » Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:33 pm

Are the pressure spots you speak of similar to this?
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6788 ... 4hi.th.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6430 ... 1vd.th.jpg
If I open my LCD, and grind that area down will it fix it?
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#15 Post by jb_007clone » Thu Apr 20, 2006 8:31 am

not really and probably not. the grid pattern is located around the top of the lid on the under side. don't know what caused those marks but chances are you're gonna need a new lcd if want to get rid of those blemishes.

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#16 Post by skou » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:40 pm

The pressure spots are what everyone on Ebay calls "keyboard pressure spots," even though they are caused by the LCD cover.

I have noticed, as has been mentioned, the T23 doesn't have the raised grid, like the T20-22 does.

One other thing you should watch for, the T23 LCD cover, with the wireless antenna inside, is a WEE bit larger. Not enough to notice, unless you try to install a non-wireless LCD bezel on a wireless cover. Just barely enough, so the 2 don't fit correctly.

Yes, I have taken a pair of dykes to the grid on the cover, as well.

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