T22 eBay scam??

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amgc36 · #1 Post by **amgc36** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:14 am

To those who have upgraded their CPUs:

When you go into BIOS, does it say your new CPU speed or the old one?

The reason I am asking is because I believe I got scammed by a seller on eBay. As posted in my previous thread, I bought a T22 900MHz on eBay, but I tested it and everything suggested that it's a 700MHz CPU instead of a 900MHz. Speedstep is off and I have run the Intel utility to confirm it is 700MHz.

The BIOS says it's 900Mhz, but I thought it might be hard-coded. I could open up the case to physically examine the CPU but since I broke the case of the T20 I had before when I tried to open it, it would be my last resort to do so.

Please help, thank you!

ninjapirate350 · #2 Post by **ninjapirate350** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:20 am

Try updating your BIOS or tweaking with the speed settings in the BIOS. If that doesn't work, then I'd say you have the wrong CPU.

christopher_wolf · #3 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun May 21, 2006 3:18 am

Interesting, a CPU swap perhaps? As the only speeds that the CPUs in the original T22s came in were 800MHz, 900MHz, or 1.0GHz and not 700Mhz.

Orevin · #4 Post by **Orevin** » Sun May 21, 2006 2:54 pm

The speed is not hard coded in BIOS. I gues you are using WinXP. There is a thread in this T2x conference, where someone was able to fix this issue with a new OS installation.

amgc36 · #5 Post by **amgc36** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:02 pm

ninjapirate350 wrote:Try updating your BIOS or tweaking with the speed settings in the BIOS. If that doesn't work, then I'd say you have the wrong CPU.

I searched the IBM website but couldn't locate a BIOS update. Could you point me to the right place? Thanks!

Edit: NVM, found it...
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... IGR-4VWPPU

amgc36 · #6 Post by **amgc36** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:03 pm

Orevin wrote:The speed is not hard coded in BIOS. I gues you are using WinXP. There is a thread in this T2x conference, where someone was able to fix this issue with a new OS installation.

Well I have installed Windows XP on the system at least 5 times with two different hard drives. And I got the same result.

MimoG3 · #7 Post by **MimoG3** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:31 pm

i have a thinkpad t20 the same thing happens to me, its not a scam, the processor speed will not run at full speed until there is a battery present.

amgc36 · #8 Post by **amgc36** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:50 pm

MimoG3 wrote:i have a thinkpad t20 the same thing happens to me, its not a scam, the processor speed will not run at full speed until there is a battery present.

Well I have been running my T22 with AC power all the time. So I guess it's not that problem.

lithium726 · #9 Post by **lithium726** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:59 pm

what is the actual sspec on the CPU? easy way to tell if you have been scammed or if the chip isnt working right with the system.

amgc36 · #10 Post by **amgc36** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:12 pm

Update:

I tried running Ubuntu and CPU info says that it's running at 896.169 MHz.

Now does that mean XP is misreporting the CPU speed? If so, how can I fix that? I searched the forum and found nothing relevant. Thanks!

skou · #11 Post by **skou** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:22 pm

MimoG3 wrote:i have a thinkpad t20 the same thing happens to me, its not a scam, the processor speed will not run at full speed until there is a battery present.

QFT.

I've never gotten a correct speed, unless there was a decent battery in any of my T2* stuff.

My T21 800 runs at 666 only on AC power.

My T21 1000 runs at 700 only on AC power.

My T23 1.2 runs at 1.2 only on AC power.

They ALL run at rated speed, when a battery is installed, on AC power.

steve

BossTone74 · #12 Post by **BossTone74** » Sun May 21, 2006 11:54 pm

check this thread....it's called speed stepping
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
you can also change the settings

amgc36 · #13 Post by **amgc36** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:57 am

BossTone74 wrote:check this thread....it's called speed stepping
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... highlight=
you can also change the settings

Nope. Speedstep is off and I have tried all power schemes. Still 700MHz (695Mhz to be exact) in XP.

skou · #14 Post by **skou** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:06 pm

Do you have a good battery?

steve

Nolonemo · #15 Post by **Nolonemo** » Mon May 22, 2006 6:24 pm

amgc36 wrote:Now does that mean XP is misreporting the CPU speed? If so, how can I fix that? I searched the forum and found nothing relevant. Thanks!

XP underreported my T22 900MHZ CPU speed. As to fixing it, who cares? I find that Mobilemeter (CPU speed and temp applet gives correct CPU speeds). You can download it from link here:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259

Mobilemeter will also show whether the CPU is stepping properly or not.

chan_man · #16 Post by **chan_man** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:42 am

Nolonemo wrote:
amgc36 wrote:Now does that mean XP is misreporting the CPU speed? If so, how can I fix that? I searched the forum and found nothing relevant. Thanks!
XP underreported my T22 900MHZ CPU speed. As to fixing it, who cares? I find that Mobilemeter (CPU speed and temp applet gives correct CPU speeds). You can download it from link here:

http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Oakland/8259

Mobilemeter will also show whether the CPU is stepping properly or not.

Nice utililty..

t20user · #17 Post by **t20user** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:42 am

I bought a "T23" on ebay last year and it turned out it was actually a T22 with a T23 nameplate. When I checked the 'detect my system' on IBMs website it said it was a T22. The seller shipped a T23 and let me keep the T22 (lucky me).

You can also check this out...

http://support.intel.com/support/proces ... 007620.htm

Im not 100% sure Intel will not lie to you, but I actually trust them more than the sellers on ebay!

Purcy · #18 Post by **Purcy** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:16 am

t20user, thanks for that Intel link, I just downloaded the CPU Utility and ran it and am happy to report that my T22's advertised 900Mhz CPU is actually running at 900Mhz. That utility downloaded and installed in less than 2 minutes. Very handy.

pianowizard · #19 Post by **pianowizard** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:19 pm

t20user wrote:I bought a "T23" on ebay last year and it turned out it was actually a T22 with a T23 nameplate. When I checked the 'detect my system' on IBMs website it said it was a T22. The seller shipped a T23 and let me keep the T22 (lucky me).

You're so lucky! I envy you!

t20user · #20 Post by **t20user** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:44 am

Ya, he was an IT guy at a school or something. I didn't want to curse him out before I knew for sure the 1st laptop he shipped me was really a T22.

Its amazing how much some people on ebay value thier feedback. They will do silly things just to keep that 100% number.

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