Internal wireless on a T20
Internal wireless on a T20
Hello all,
I'm hoping somebody here can help - I've owned a T20 for a few years now, and I love it. Just recently I got a wireless router at home and started using wifi on the thinkpad using a cheap PC card, which works fine, but I really dislike the way it sticks out (I'm sure I'm going to snap it someday, or even worse - damage the thinkpad with it), and I don't like losing the slot either, as it prevents me from using my double-height bluetooth card at the same time.
Since my mini-pci bay was empty, and I'm not adverse to dismantling the T20 to add antenna, I decided to buy what was advertised as an IBM T2x series wifi card from Ebay. What I got was an "IBM High Rate Wireless LAN MiniPCI Combo Card" as recognised by XP, with an Actiontec chipset - I got the driver from the IBM/Lenovo site (where the T20 was ominously not listed as compatible) and everything seemed to install fine, including the aerial which I threaded up underneath the keyboard. The driver is version 2.0.9.0.
Of course it doesn't work. In the (Windows XP Pro) device manager the card is listed with a yellow exclamation mark, and its properties give the message "This device cannot start. (Code 10)". I can't seem to find any way to persuade it to start, or any more info on what the problem might be. Is the T20 simply unable to support a mini-pci wireless card at all, or is there some obvious tweak I need to make to get it working?
It occurs to me that although this is a combo card with a modem, the installed driver seems to be for wireless only, and it doesn't appear as a modem separately in the device list - is that significant?
There is another possibility - that my T20 has some fault relating to the mini-pci slot, which would explain why the combo ethernet/modem card it came with never worked - but since that card was never recognised at all by the system, I prefer to think that was just a dud card... wasn't it?
I'm hoping somebody here can help - I've owned a T20 for a few years now, and I love it. Just recently I got a wireless router at home and started using wifi on the thinkpad using a cheap PC card, which works fine, but I really dislike the way it sticks out (I'm sure I'm going to snap it someday, or even worse - damage the thinkpad with it), and I don't like losing the slot either, as it prevents me from using my double-height bluetooth card at the same time.
Since my mini-pci bay was empty, and I'm not adverse to dismantling the T20 to add antenna, I decided to buy what was advertised as an IBM T2x series wifi card from Ebay. What I got was an "IBM High Rate Wireless LAN MiniPCI Combo Card" as recognised by XP, with an Actiontec chipset - I got the driver from the IBM/Lenovo site (where the T20 was ominously not listed as compatible) and everything seemed to install fine, including the aerial which I threaded up underneath the keyboard. The driver is version 2.0.9.0.
Of course it doesn't work. In the (Windows XP Pro) device manager the card is listed with a yellow exclamation mark, and its properties give the message "This device cannot start. (Code 10)". I can't seem to find any way to persuade it to start, or any more info on what the problem might be. Is the T20 simply unable to support a mini-pci wireless card at all, or is there some obvious tweak I need to make to get it working?
It occurs to me that although this is a combo card with a modem, the installed driver seems to be for wireless only, and it doesn't appear as a modem separately in the device list - is that significant?
There is another possibility - that my T20 has some fault relating to the mini-pci slot, which would explain why the combo ethernet/modem card it came with never worked - but since that card was never recognised at all by the system, I prefer to think that was just a dud card... wasn't it?
Tim
T20 - 700mhz, 512mb, 20gb, Win XP Pro - 2647-81G
T20 - 700mhz, 512mb, 20gb, Win XP Pro - 2647-81G
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Re: Internal wireless on a T20
Could be. It's always best to use the correct driver for any particular piece of hardware. How were you able to determine that that driver goes with your wireless card?Boinng wrote:It occurs to me that although this is a combo card with a modem, the installed driver seems to be for wireless only, and it doesn't appear as a modem separately in the device list - is that significant?
Maybe yes, maybe no. Without having a known good device to plug into the MiniPCI slot it's hard to say where the problem is. You could try downloading the verision of PC Doctor for the T2x series from here:Boinng wrote:There is another possibility - that my T20 has some fault relating to the mini-pci slot, which would explain why the combo ethernet/modem card it came with never worked - but since that card was never recognised at all by the system, I prefer to think that was just a dud card... wasn't it?
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... IGR-4YZM3F
Three diskettes are required. If you don't have a floppy drive but do have a CD burner, the same program has been made available as an ISO image which you can get from here:
http://www.mypchelp.com/~dsmith/ibmutil ... pcdiag.iso
or from my backup site:
http://www.kawakami-ca.com/ibm_t23/ibm_t22_pcdiag.iso
That diagnostic program has checks for the ethernet interface as well as the Actiontec wireless card. I would assume that the T20 can handle a wireless card (but I could be wrong). I have thrown in a generic Broadcom 802.11g card into a T23 and with drivers I found at Gateway.com for that particular card, it works fine.
(edit: 1/2007 - Added backup site)
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Re: Internal wireless on a T20
This is where it gets messy - since the card I have was never supplied with the T20, but was intended for the T22 and T23 that had the antenna built in, I got the driver from the T22/23 page on the IBM site - http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-57669 (look for "High Rate Wireless LAN Mini PCI combo card"). In own simple way I decided that the T20 wasn't mentioned simply because it didn't have the antenna, and that it was in most other respects identical to the 22/23 - but of course I'm probably wrong, and this may either be the completely wrong driver for the T20, or there may just be no driver that works on the T20 for whatever reason..rkawakami wrote: Could be. It's always best to use the correct driver for any particular piece of hardware. How were you able to determine that that driver goes with your wireless card?
Looking at it again now, the driver definitely is for a combo card, so I'm not sure why a similarly broken modem isn't appearing in my device list.
Thanks, I'll try that when I've got a bit more time. I'm lucky enough to have both floppy and dvd ultrabay drives, so the diskettes are no problem. Just out of interest, am I right in thinking there's a dvd burner available for these?Maybe yes, maybe no. Without having a known good device to plug into the MiniPCI slot it's hard to say where the problem is. You could try downloading the verision of PC Doctor for the T2x series from here:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... IGR-4YZM3F
The crucial difference between the problem with the ethernet card and this one, is that the old card wasn't recognised at all - it just didn't exist as far as the thinkpad was concerned. With the wireless combo card it does at least recognise the new hardware and try its best to install an appropriate driver.
I've perhaps been assuming a few things I shouldn't, so who knows... I thought the T20 was virtually identical to the T21 and T22 at least, aside from the processor, but maybe it's mobo has some other limitation in regard to wireless that I don't know about.That diagnostic program has checks for the ethernet interface as well as the Actiontec wireless card. I would assume that the T20 can handle a wireless card (but I could be wrong). I have thrown in a generic Broadcom 802.11g card into a T23 and with drivers I found at Gateway.com for that particular card, it works fine.
Tim
T20 - 700mhz, 512mb, 20gb, Win XP Pro - 2647-81G
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Re: Internal wireless on a T20
There is also a firmware upgrade listed, however it's accompanied by a dire warning that it is meant only for the T23 (among others) and does not list the T20.Boinng wrote:<snip>... I got the driver from the T22/23 page on the IBM site - http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-57669
As this is getting off topic, I'll answer that question via PM.Boinng wrote:Just out of interest, am I right in thinking there's a dvd burner available for these?
I'm sorry I don't know more about the T20; only have the T21 and T23 to play around with. A quick glance through the tawbook specs says that the 802.11 option was not available for the T20, T21 and T22 systems. That does not mean it won't work; just that the factory may not have offered that option.Boinng wrote:I've perhaps been assuming a few things I shouldn't, so who knows... I thought the T20 was virtually identical to the T21 and T22 at least, aside from the processor, but maybe it's mobo has some other limitation in regard to wireless that I don't know about.
Ray Kawakami
X22 X24 X31 X41 X41T X60 X60s X61 X61s X200 X200s X300 X301 Z60m Z61t Z61p 560 560Z 600 600E 600X T21 T22 T23 T41 T60p T410 T420 T520 W500 W520 R50 A21p A22p A31 A31p
NOTE: All links to PC-Doctor software hosted by me are dead. Files removed 8/28/12 by manufacturer's demand.
X22 X24 X31 X41 X41T X60 X60s X61 X61s X200 X200s X300 X301 Z60m Z61t Z61p 560 560Z 600 600E 600X T21 T22 T23 T41 T60p T410 T420 T520 W500 W520 R50 A21p A22p A31 A31p
NOTE: All links to PC-Doctor software hosted by me are dead. Files removed 8/28/12 by manufacturer's demand.
Re: Internal wireless on a T20
I just tried it anywayrkawakami wrote: There is also a firmware upgrade listed, however it's accompanied by a dire warning that it is meant only for the T23 (among others) and does not list the T20.
Yep - I was hoping for the latter, on account of the missing antenna, but it may well be more complicated than that - thanks for your help, but I think I'll give up on this particular card. If anyone knows of a minipci wlan card that definitely does work in a T20, please let me know!I'm sorry I don't know more about the T20; only have the T21 and T23 to play around with. A quick glance through the tawbook specs says that the 802.11 option was not available for the T20, T21 and T22 systems. That does not mean it won't work; just that the factory may not have offered that option.
Tim
T20 - 700mhz, 512mb, 20gb, Win XP Pro - 2647-81G
T20 - 700mhz, 512mb, 20gb, Win XP Pro - 2647-81G
A great card for the T20 is the Atheros AR5002G for B/G. Stable and fast. The XP driver can be found here:
http://members.driverguide.com/driver/d ... rid=675853
http://members.driverguide.com/driver/d ... rid=675853
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