T30 2366-86u and IBM 802.11a/b/g wireless lan mini pci adapt

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DanDLT · #1 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:35 pm

Hi everyone.. i have at t30 2366-86U that i purchased from a guy few years back, love this thinkpad, works great, anyway the guy i bought it from gave me the wireless card and said that he never got around to installing it.. so i had the geek squad try to install it but, it would not take, thinkpad would keep rejecting it..so i called ibm and told me it was not compatible with my T30
so i went ahead and bought the linksys card that slides in the side of the thinkpad and have been using it with no problems.. but i really would like to have the internal card installed. it is part number 31p9701
i know my t30 has the antenna because i saw the wires that connect to the card in the back of the thinkpad...

i have read about the no-1802 hack that works for other folks.. and i want to find out if this will allow me to get the internal wireless mini pci card installed by doing the no1802 hack..
how would the performance be? are there any downsides to this if it works? if not i have a wireless card for sale...

also i read about updating the Bios.. but instructions look intimidating.. not sure how to do this exactly.. i have never updated it before so it must be old.. so i read that the new bios will fix the thinkpad to take only the aironet 11b card which is too slow for me ..... so my 2nd question is, should i get the bios updated? i dont really have any issues with this thinkpad.. is there any reason that i need to do this bios update? i would like to do it but dont really know how..

does a new xp install update the bios? the hard drive burned out on me bout 14 days before the warranty expired.. ibm sent me a new one right away.. so all is good..
thanks in advance for any advice...
ive been reading for 3 days and now more confused with all the info... im not really a computer guy.. just enough to get by to talk so me like im 4 years old...

Dan

CeeDee · #2 Post by **CeeDee** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:08 pm

I understand that bios version 2.10 solves the wifi problem. Do not be intimidated by the bios update, it really is quite simple, just follow the instructions exactly. At the end it just shuts down without telling you so be aware of this. I am contemplating upgrading to internal card myself, but must say that my Netgear card works flawlessly. Let us know how it goes.

DanDLT · #3 Post by **DanDLT** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:27 pm

thanks for the response Colin.. i got the bios upgraded.. ran the no-1802 hack and got the card working but i finally figured out it is a 11b card.. so now i want to get the A/G card.. i have read bout hassles with the intel so i want to stay with an IBM card.. but im not sure which one to go with..
i found these on ebay.. can anyone recommend any of these?

IBM Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II
IBM FRU Part #39T0081
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
heres the ebay item number 260048899093

or
IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Adapter II Kit
part number 73P4301
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing is 180050021666

or
IBM 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
part number 91P7301
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing is 170040710039

or

IBM 802.11g Wireless 802.11a Mini PCI Card 31P9701 NEW!
part number 31P9701
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing 160050239535

these all look the same.. but not sure which one to get..
can anybody advise? any input on the new 802.11N ? i heard lenovo is putting these in the new laptops.. but probally too soon for me.. has anyone upgraded to this yet?
heres what lenovo says bout it
11a, 11b, 11g and 11n wireless are based on IEEE 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g and 802.11n respectively. The 802.11n standard is in DRAFT and is not due for final approval until March 2008. An adapter with 11a/b, 11a/b/g, or 11a/b/g/n can communicate on any of its supported formats; the actual connection will be based on the access point to which it connects.

Wireless upgradable models can be wireless enabled with the addition of an optional wireless LAN Mini PCI Card. These systems are designed to operate only with wireless LAN Mini PCI options sold by Lenovo.

CeeDee · #4 Post by **CeeDee** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:13 pm

I am not sure which is the "best one" but I just bought one from trimsdepot because he ships from Canada and that makes it cheaper for me. He has several others listed, but if you take note NONE of them are recomended for the T30 so I'm taking a chance on this.
Others on this forum have said that the Atheros chipset is the best and you can see the name Atheros on the photograh of this one.
Item number: 260049536307
Hope this helps.

DanDLT · #5 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:55 pm

found the exact same one as the one you mentioned..but for only 28 bucks... looks like the same thing they are not new otherwise it would be sealed in the little baggy right? was the 45 dollar price the best that you could find when you were looking for one?
or am i missin somthin..?
dan

Musti · #6 Post by **Musti** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:04 pm

Hey Dan

Just to let you know, I have replaced the built-in Actiontec Wi-Fi/modem combo card with an Intel 2915 a/b/g yesterday. Just plugged, installed the generic drivers from Intel, and off on my way. No problems at all. Cost: CDN $25

The Intel 2915 was pulled from a ThinkPad, and does not have any other company markings (some I've seen on eBay were stamped/stickered Dell).

I fried the Actiontec one trying to upgrade the Prism firmware. But I am not complaining, though I lost the modem, I got a nice robust card that gives me WPA and 802.11a/g on top of the Actiontec/Prism one.

As far as the BIOS problems go, I've come to understand there are two: One the card's being Atheros-based, and hence identifying itself as another ethernet controller, and the other IBM's restriction to use only certain cards. For your case, the second applies, if it does ever (1802 error), which can be overcome with a simple CMOS editing.

HTH, regards.

CeeDee · #7 Post by **CeeDee** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:44 pm

The part that I bought was a genuine IBM replacement part and NEW in sealed wrapper. As I said in my previous post, the general comsensus of this group is that Atheros chipset is the best. I defer to the group when I am unsure.

tbird635 · #8 Post by **tbird635** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:21 am

DanDLT wrote:thanks for the response Colin.. i got the bios upgraded.. ran the no-1802 hack and got the card working but i finally figured out it is a 11b card.. so now i want to get the A/G card.. i have read bout hassles with the intel so i want to stay with an IBM card.. but im not sure which one to go with..
i found these on ebay.. can anyone recommend any of these?

IBM Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI Adapter II
IBM FRU Part #39T0081
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
heres the ebay item number 260048899093

or
IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad 802.11a/b/g Mini-PCI Adapter II Kit
part number 73P4301
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing is 180050021666

or
IBM 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN
part number 91P7301
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing is 170040710039

or

IBM 802.11g Wireless 802.11a Mini PCI Card 31P9701 NEW!
part number 31P9701
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... &rd=1&rd=1
ebay listing 160050239535

these all look the same.. but not sure which one to get..
can anybody advise? any input on the new 802.11N ? i heard lenovo is putting these in the new laptops.. but probally too soon for me.. has anyone upgraded to this yet?
heres what lenovo says bout it
11a, 11b, 11g and 11n wireless are based on IEEE 802.11a, 802.11b, 802.11g and 802.11n respectively. The 802.11n standard is in DRAFT and is not due for final approval until March 2008. An adapter with 11a/b, 11a/b/g, or 11a/b/g/n can communicate on any of its supported formats; the actual connection will be based on the access point to which it connects.

Wireless upgradable models can be wireless enabled with the addition of an optional wireless LAN Mini PCI Card. These systems are designed to operate only with wireless LAN Mini PCI options sold by Lenovo.

I concur that the Atheros is probably the best...but I have a generic 2915ABG by intel in my T30 and it hasn't missed a beat.
Since you've already done the no-1802, this should be a easy install. It will also run the IBM drivers / ThinkVantage software if you decide to run it. (mine's generic Intel sw and PRO/Set wireless from intel)

DanDLT · #9 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:15 am

i cant figure out how to burn the cd to apply the 01cp patch...
ive read some cards are write protected so the patch would not write/fix it.. the card i got is the IBM Thinkpad 802.11a/b/g Wireless Mini-PCI II - 39T0081 its an atheros card...
can anyone confirm if the patch will change the name of the card, ?
i tried burning it but cant seem to get it to boot from disk...
am i on the right track? can anyone recommend a burner that i can download and burn the disc?
dan

DanDLT · #10 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:10 am

for this card . i go to device manager and find the network adapter with the yellow ? right click to update driver, tried manually selecting the driver saved on my desktop that i downloaded from lenovo for this driver.. but dont recognize it from my desktop .. this is a 39T0081. The 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI II
and i beleive this is the driver
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-52527

help
almost there aint i....
dan

DanDLT · #11 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:16 am

cannot start driver.. error 10 ..
what the heck does that mean?

CeeDee · #12 Post by **CeeDee** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:56 am

DanDlt wrote:

cannot start driver.. error 10 ..
what the heck does that mean?

I think the message is DEVICE cannot start. but no matter it ain't gona go!!!

DanDlt wrote:

this is a 39T0081. The 11a/b/g Wireless LAN Mini PCI II
and i beleive this is the driver
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site. ... MIGR-52527

Tried that driver plus I even got a driver disk and upgrade path with my card: None of them load. Tried generic drivers also, no go.
Now I have given up and am looking to swap out my card with someone who has the right TP to use it.

danage · #13 Post by **danage** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:19 am

there are quite some posts on that issue already. so far, only a bypass but no definate fix has been found. i meant to put it in the thinkwiki, but haven't had the time. you can try a search for code 10 or even my posts and will find how to bypass it. it's no elegant fix though, i have to warn ya :)

DanDLT · #14 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:30 am

i get the message this may screw up your computer would you like to install anyway? but then it fails..
when i ran the no 01cp patch, it did work and i selected the correct card and it seemed to work, said renamed card and says done!.. i read if this fails you get an error 10.. this is not my issue..
the 01cp worked, i dont get that error anymore at start up.. im just trying to get the driver working now.. but it wont take...
so which wireless card will work?
dan

danage · #15 Post by **danage** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:47 pm

misunderstanding there. the 01c9 and the code 10 are different issues. code 10 is windows related, under linux, it doesn't occur. you can bypass it by changing card id and changing drivers.

DanDLT · #16 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:56 pm

is there another way to get the driver working.. i dont know what linux means... how do i change the Id and drivers..?
i already got rid of the 1802 and 01cp errors with the hacks... i just need to get the driver installed now..

DanDLT · #17 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:02 pm

is there another way to get the driver working.. i dont know what linux means... how do i change the Id and drivers..?
i already got rid of the 1802 and 01cp errors with the hacks... i just need to get the driver installed now..

danage · #18 Post by **danage** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:19 pm

in that case, i recommend you get a non atheros-card (intel, for example). i am pretty sure those will not create the error. heck, there might even be people wanting to swap their intel card with yours in the forums. try the buy/sell area...

DanDLT · #19 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:36 pm

is there any driver that will work with this card? why wont the driver install correctly? this is the card i have
IBM Thinkpad 802.11a/b/g Wireless Mini-PCI Adapter II - Stock# 39T0081.

would this driver work?
http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility

or maybe this one?
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.ws ... &loc=en_US

im really confused now

danage · #20 Post by **danage** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:40 pm

sorry for confusing you. madwifi is made for the operating system LINUX, which you can put on your computer instead of windows. i can only recommend it: it is free and runs excellent on thinkpads. there are different variants of it, if you are interested try a "live cd" it runs without you having to install anything to your hard drive. your card will work with it - out of the box.

try www.ubuntu.com for free downloads and a very very end-user friendly version of linux.

as to your windows troubles: the drivers you use there are different and stem either from ibm or directly from atheros. from what i recall, any driver you use will cause the code 10 (for reasons unknown).

DanDLT · #21 Post by **DanDLT** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:09 pm

so i would need to install linux instead of windows to get this card working? what is a live CD? will this let me install the driver or does this install linux on my computer?

what exactly do ya mean when you say..
if you are interested try a "live cd" it runs without you having to install anything to your hard drive. your card will work with it - out of the box.

i would rather not have linux.. windows works fine for me..
can anyone recommend a card that will work on my T30 23966-86u
that will work on my thinkpad on windows.?

BlueDevilTide · #22 Post by **BlueDevilTide** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:08 am

I am trying to get the Intel 2915abg card to work on my X30. I resolved the 1802 (despite the card having a FRU). But I get the Code 10 Device cannot Start error.

Is there no solution?!

CeeDee · #23 Post by **CeeDee** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:13 pm

In a word "no" unless you change your card to an intel chipset abg or an Atheros bg card there is no hope!!!
Bios upgrade 2.10 gave access to 'g' but not 'a'

CeeDee · #24 Post by **CeeDee** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:51 pm

Oops, didn't notice that it was an X30 you were talking about, this thread was regarding T30s. Not sure if my previous response is relevent.

T30 2366-86u and IBM 802.11a/b/g wireless lan mini pci adapt

T30 2366-86u and IBM 802.11a/b/g wireless lan mini pci adapt

so which IBm wireless should i get for my T30 2366-86u

hey colin found same one 39T0081 for 28 bucks 180042435402

Re: hey colin found same one 39T0081 for 28 bucks 180042435

Re: so which IBm wireless should i get for my T30 2366-86u

well i got the 39T0081card, installed and now i get 01c9

ok burned the 01cp gone.. having trouble installing driver

i keep trying to install driver but at end i get this

hmm thought the no 1802 would let me use any card..

how do i do that?

how do i do that?

thanks for help danage..

hi danage

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