Accessing extra hard drive mounted in ultrabay problem

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dsbuck · #1 Post by **dsbuck** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:15 pm

First Post, new member.
I recently acquired a hard drive caddy for the ultrabay. I am unable to access the ultrabay hard drive from my T-30. If I "explore" the drives, the computer doesn't recoginze the drive.

The drive will boot the computer when it is installed so I know the drive is working. Also, a friend was able to access the same drive/same caddy in his T-42 (running Vista), his computer recoginzed the drive as "D".

I am running XP-Home Edition. I have not changed any Bios and their is no jumper on the "D" drive (all pins open). Do I need to add a jumper to make the "D" a slave? If not, any suggestions to get the ultrabay to read the extra drive?

sarbin · #2 Post by **sarbin** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:21 pm

welcome to the forum.

since you're sure the drive and caddy are ok...
- drive boots your machine
- drive+caddy is recognized in friend's machine
maybe your ultrabay slot is toast. does your machine recognize an optical drive in the slot?

madkat · #3 Post by **madkat** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:30 pm

make the D drive either slave or cable-select
maybe with no jumper - it is by default master - and the OS fails to see it properly (i had same issue with several desktops, some years ago)

dsbuck · #4 Post by **dsbuck** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:14 pm

sarbin wrote:welcome to the forum.

since you're sure the drive and caddy are ok...
- drive boots your machine
- drive+caddy is recognized in friend's machine
maybe your ultrabay slot is toast. does your machine recognize an optical drive in the slot?

Ultra bay slot is working fine with optical drive, reads and burns fine.

Paul Pennington · #5 Post by **Paul Pennington** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:41 pm

> Ultra bay slot is working fine with optical drive,
> reads and burns fine.

I'd say that pins it down to a bad ultrabay hard drive adapter. There's not much to go wrong in there, but I suppose there could be a bad connection. Make sure you are plugging in the hard drive correctly so the pins line up with the socket. Easy to get one pin off either vertically or horizontally.

sarbin · #6 Post by **sarbin** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:56 pm

Paul Pennington wrote:> Ultra bay slot is working fine with optical drive,
> reads and burns fine.

I'd say that pins it down to a bad ultrabay hard drive adapter.

but the op says that the drive+adapter work fine together in a friend's t4x.

sarbin · #7 Post by **sarbin** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:58 pm

madkat wrote:make the D drive either slave or cable-select
maybe with no jumper - it is by default master - and the OS fails to see it properly (i had same issue with several desktops, some years ago)

i use hdd's in the ultrabay adapter all the time without jumpers or any other changes to the drive. on my t43, an ultrabay-mounted hdd is enumerated as a "secondary master" and has no conflicts with the primary drive.

#8 Post by **carbon_unit** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:06 pm

What does XP's "Disk Management" show?
Right click "My Computer" select "Manage" and click "Disk Management".

#9 Post by **rkawakami** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:13 pm

Paul Pennington wrote:> Ultra bay slot is working fine with optical drive,
> reads and burns fine.

I'd say that pins it down to a bad ultrabay hard drive adapter.

sarbin wrote:but the op says that the drive+adapter work fine together in a friend's t4x.

Can't be the same Ultrabay HD adapter. The T30 uses Ultrabay 2000/Plus and the T4x uses Ultrabay Slim.

sarbin · #10 Post by **sarbin** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:25 pm

rkawakami wrote:Can't be the same Ultrabay HD adapter. The T30 uses Ultrabay 2000/Plus and the T4x uses Ultrabay Slim.

doh!

basketb · #11 Post by **basketb** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:52 pm

sarbin wrote:
rkawakami wrote:Can't be the same Ultrabay HD adapter. The T30 uses Ultrabay 2000/Plus and the T4x uses Ultrabay Slim.
doh!

The solution is really as simple as this, is it?

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Probably like many other, I've read the original post a few times as well as the other responses, but it never occurred to me that the OP is trying to use an ultrabay slim HD adapter in a ultrabay 2000 slot. I blame IBM for this confusion.
(Lenovo will confuse people similarly with new ultrabay adapters for the R/T/W 4/5/700 machines that are incompatible with the R/T6x machines and vice versa).

#12 Post by **rkawakami** » Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:30 pm

No I don't think that's what dsbuck's is doing. I think the confusion started from when he said:

dsbuck wrote:Also, a friend was able to access the same drive/same caddy in his T-42

and then...

sarbin wrote:but the op says that the drive+adapter work fine together in a friend's t4x.

I originally read dsbuck's description of same drive/same caddy as being the hard drive caddy, not an Ultrabay adapter. You cannot physically install (latch) an Ultrabay Slim drive into an Ultrabay 2000 bay; it just falls right out. And you sure can't put an Ultrabay 2000 HD adpater into a T41! I'd say we have to wait until the OP returns and clarifies the Ultrabay adapter issue (bent pins) and Windows disk management settings.

edit: It just occurred to me that you can use an adapter on an Ultrabay Slim optical drive and convert it to an Ultrabay 2000 device, but nothing has been said about this by the OP. If that's the case, ThinkWiki says that won't work:

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ultrabay_ ... rabay_2000

dsbuck · #13 Post by **dsbuck** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:25 pm

If I understand the brain trust's conclusion then I must have a Ultrabay "Slim" HD carrier (as it worked in a T-41 but not in my T-30).

How can I confirm which model of CD carrier (for the optical drive slot) that I have?

Thanks for all your responses!

dsbuck

#14 Post by **Harryc** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:56 pm

Ultrabay Slim 2nd HDD adapter

Ultrabay 2000 2nd HDD adapter

#15 Post by **rkawakami** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:46 pm

And here's several more images:

http://www.kawakami-ca.com/images/ub2k_vs_ubs.jpg (connector differences)
http://www.kawakami-ca.com/images/ub_sl ... er_top.jpg (Slim HD adapter)
http://www.rkawakami.net/ibm_t2x/ub2khd ... a_top1.jpg (2000 HD adapter)

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