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Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

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Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#1 Post by zoltan87 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:19 pm

So I bought a 15 inch Thinkpad T60 quite some time ago, and finally got the time to check it out more thoroughly. It was advertised that it had a 1400 x 1050 panel in it, which was the main reason I bought it. I was 100% sure, that it will have a flexview panel, as I have never heard about TN panels in 15" T60s with this resoluton.

But to my huge surprise, it is definitely NOT an IPS panel. Even though the advertised SXGA+ resolution was correct, this is definitely a TN panel with not so glorious viewing angles and colours. I am quite disappointed, but at the same time the purchase happened too long ago now to do anything about it, and also not sure if it was fair to complain to the seller anyway, as he never mentioned that it's an IPS display, I just assumed it from the resolution.

Have any of you ever come across a similar machine?
Laptops after the 4:3 aspect ratio era are non-existent to me.

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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#2 Post by zod » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:31 pm

Somebody swapped the display in the past for sure. It should be Flexview.

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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#3 Post by ajkula66 » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm

zod wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:31 pm
Somebody swapped the display in the past for sure. It should be Flexview.
My thoughts exactly. R60 was offered with a non-IPS 15" SXGA+ panel, which would have been much cheaper to swap in during the heyday of that generation.
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#4 Post by wujstefan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:13 am

... and such replacements were common in time. This is not the first nor fifth unit I've heard with such problem.
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#5 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:25 am

ajkula66 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm
My thoughts exactly. R60 was offered with a non-IPS 15" SXGA+ panel, which would have been much cheaper to swap in during the heyday of that generation.
There wouldn't be any day of the week I wouldn't easily pay the difference to get FlexView.
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#6 Post by wujstefan » Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:33 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:25 am
ajkula66 wrote:
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 pm
My thoughts exactly. R60 was offered with a non-IPS 15" SXGA+ panel, which would have been much cheaper to swap in during the heyday of that generation.
There wouldn't be any day of the week I wouldn't easily pay the difference to get FlexView.
But the difference was huge. And the key buyer was corporate, not TP freak :)
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#7 Post by zoltan87 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:25 pm

So it's more common then I thought then. I learned the lesson, will have to specifically ask next time about IPS, if it comes to that.
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#8 Post by kfzhu1229 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:02 pm

wujstefan wrote:
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:13 am
... and such replacements were common in time. This is not the first nor fifth unit I've heard with such problem.
Well I also happened to get myself a UXGA TN panel designed to work in T4x, R5x and T/R6x series. Not intended for any means, it advertised for a brand new replacement for T6xp series on eBay. It is brand new (LG/Philips branded) and works pretty good - but just not IPS.
Ended up shifting that screen from my main T43p computer to a R51 cable modded to accept UXGA screens.
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T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
2xT43 14.1" 2.26 SXGA+ 2gb 1*fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
Flexview UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10

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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#9 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:39 pm

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:02 pm
Well I also happened to get myself a UXGA TN panel designed to work in T4x, R5x and T/R6x series. Not intended for any means, it advertised for a brand new replacement for T6xp series on eBay. It is brand new (LG/Philips branded) and works pretty good - but just not IPS.
Ended up shifting that screen from my main T43p computer to a R51 cable modded to accept UXGA screens.
So similar to the one in the A22p?
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Re: Bought a 15" 1400 x 1050 T60 with TN panel!!!

#10 Post by kfzhu1229 » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:58 pm

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Tue Oct 23, 2018 6:39 pm
So similar to the one in the A22p?
Similar, but in brand new condition and isn't that old because the connector is at where the 15" T4x/R5x/T/R6x series have their connectors that is too high for a A22p's cable to reach
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T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
2xT43 14.1" 2.26 SXGA+ 2gb 1*fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
Flexview UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10

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