Space bar losing sensitivity

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Space bar losing sensitivity

#1 Post by serpico » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:44 am

The space bar has become very unresponsive and requires pressing particular spots on the bar and requires a more forceful press than normal. This has seemed to happen very suddenly. Restarting didn't resolve the issue.

Any thoughts? Possible solutions?
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:57 am

Do you enjoy breakfast (toast comes to mind) while at the laptop?
Crumbs (and dust or cigarette ash etc.) can accumulate over the years and suddenly start failing any key.
Try blowing under the space bar with compressed air first and/or clean the whole KB.
Carefully removing, cleaning under it and reassembling the spacebar might also help.
If not, get a replacement spacebar with all the parts or a new keyboard.
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#3 Post by TuuS » Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:45 am

Sometimes worn contact points can cause this too, so cleaning may not help, but if you want a keyboard, I have some ranging in price from $10-35 depending on condition.

If you do clean yours, only use distilled water or steam, the minerals in tap water will foul up a keyboard.

Also, just to be clear, you don't use water of any kind on the keyboard as a unit, but if you want to disassemble it, you can clean the pieces, just make sure you fully dry them before attempting to use it, and do so at your own risk.

ps. As cheap as these things are it kinda makes the efforts of trying to repair one futile.

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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#4 Post by serpico » Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:18 pm

Thanks for the suggestions.

I pulled the keyboard out,and blew it out with compressed air. While that helped, it still isn't as responsive as it used to be. It's totally unresponsive on either end of the space bar, and fairly responsive in the middle but requires a firm key press.

Anyone seen any instructions or videos that show how to remove, clean or replace individual keys? Might go that route before I do a full keyboard replacement.
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:09 pm

Check out the eBay sellers' auctions that offer individual keys.
Several have good pictures and even supply a video with the how-to.
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#6 Post by nycmaster » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:47 pm

You asked for it... and here it is :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su1mBU8q2no

I used this guide and spent $10 for used keyboard to replace keys

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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#7 Post by serpico » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:14 pm

nycmaster wrote:You asked for it... and here it is :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su1mBU8q2no

I used this guide and spent $10 for used keyboard to replace keys
Awesome, thanks!

How did you know the used keyboard would match your laptop's keyboard? Seems there are different styles even for the same Thinkpad model.
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#8 Post by nycmaster » Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:15 pm

I searched for used and broken keyboard in eBay with same keyboard part number as the one I have. Keyboard part number I had was 42T3143 in my T60

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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#9 Post by serpico » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:36 am

Just following up. I ended up ordering a replacement spacebar from LaptopKey.com and it works fine now. I suspect the piece that needed replacing was the rubber cup, but they don't sell just that piece and you need to purchase all the key components - cap, hinges, cup. Still, buying one new key was a lot cheaper than buying an entire new keyboard.
T430: i5-3320M(2.6GHz), 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD, 14" 1600x900, NVIDIA NVS 5400M 1GB
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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#10 Post by TuuS » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:14 pm

I have a couple dozen used keyboards I sell for $10 each, so it seems unless you have an unusual keyboard (not standard english layout), it's probably more work then it's worth to repair, but I have successfully repaired many in the past, and it's great that you were able to fix yours, I just question how much time you invested vs money saved, but I guess you gained knowledge, so that is of significant value, so good job, well done :)

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Re: Space bar losing sensitivity

#11 Post by serpico » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:22 pm

TuuS wrote:I have a couple dozen used keyboards I sell for $10 each, so it seems unless you have an unusual keyboard (not standard english layout), it's probably more work then it's worth to repair, but I have successfully repaired many in the past, and it's great that you were able to fix yours, I just question how much time you invested vs money saved, but I guess you gained knowledge, so that is of significant value, so good job, well done :)
Well if any more keys give out, you'll be getting a PM from me. :mrgreen:
T430: i5-3320M(2.6GHz), 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD, 14" 1600x900, NVIDIA NVS 5400M 1GB
W510: i7-720QM(1.6GHz), 8GB RAM, 240GB SSD, 15.6" 1600x900, 1GB nVIDIA Quadro FX 880M
T410s: Core i5 2.53GHz, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD, 14.1" 1440x900
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