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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#31 Post by zenlunatic » Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:39 pm

Wow that CPU stress test is amazing. Pushed me up to 99 C

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#32 Post by zenlunatic » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:39 pm

So I bit the bullet and did a disassemble. I noticed two things which are linked below as pics.

A. I went a little overboard on the artic silver. I have lots of experiences with PC repair but not much thermal grease application. I made sure not to overdo it after cleaning the cpu for a second attempt.

B. The thermal pad on the Northbridge wasn't fully applied. I do not admit fault though because I had to literally add the pad to the very edge of the copper and cut with a razor to achieve full coverage (bad design)

No lockups yet but I'm still waiting. Next is a clean install and possibly BIOS updates (nothing in changelogs were related to my issues). Then out comes the plastic for a new machine.

A. http://i.imgur.com/ZJHGD.jpg
B. http://imgur.com/H80Sx

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#33 Post by Tasurinchi » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:30 am

zenlunatic wrote:A. I went a little overboard on the artic silver.
Boah... That's was really to much.

I normally apply a little bit less than this picture (taken from a T43p):

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The end result after spreading the paste could look like this:

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The above are old pics, I'm using a little less thermal compound lately, covering about 80% of the die, the heatsink will normally press the paste to cover the rest.

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#34 Post by zenlunatic » Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:46 am

Yeah that is much better than mine.

Good news is that I haven't had any lockups. I really think it was that northbridge thing. They really should have extended that copper further for a less convoluted thermal putty application.

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#35 Post by zenlunatic » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:57 pm

Froze again... time to move on to different hardware. This is quite dissapointing.

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#36 Post by Tasurinchi » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:48 am

Have you tried a Linux Distro? You can burn a CD or install it in an USB stick and run it from there for a while. If it doesn't freeze it may point to a software rather than a hardware issue.
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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#37 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:54 am

Have you tried running it without the battery?
That may be the culprit.
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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#38 Post by zenlunatic » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:37 am

I've tried without the battery and it still froze.

I haven't recognized any sort of pattern or trigger for the freeze.

Tomorrow I will be able to reinstall to a clean slate for testing purposes.

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#39 Post by Tasurinchi » Thu Aug 02, 2012 9:41 am

zenlunatic wrote:Tomorrow I will be able to reinstall to a clean slate for testing purposes.
A Win clean install it's normally a lot of work until you get all drivers and stuff working. I'd really encourage you to try a Linux Distro from a CD or USB stick. You need no installation for that and you can just use internet or try any mini game to see if the Thinkpad freezes... It will be at least a quick method to check if you really have a hardware issue...

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#40 Post by zenlunatic » Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:30 pm

I know. Debian Squeeze is all I use on this machine. I can do a clean install of Squeeze tommorow or this weekend.

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Re: T60 random freeze *PIC*

#41 Post by zenlunatic » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:18 pm

Suprised no one mentioned the hdd. Going to do more tests on it.

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