Frankenpad cooling questions

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Frankenpad cooling questions

#1 Post by Morten » Thu Nov 28, 2013 4:00 pm

I'm building a frankenpad with a T61 4:3 integrated-graphics board into a T60 15". I'm trying to keep costdown on this one, but am thinking about improving the cooling - or more specifically, making it as silent as possible during light use (mostly browsing). I’ll be using the middleton BIOS and a T9300 CPU though. Couldn’t resist :-)

I have the T61 integrated HSF that came with my donor machine. I've seen two tweaks suggested:

1) Use a T61p (or other T61 discrete?) HSF instead of the integrated-graphics T61 HSF. Supposedly this one is beefier or has an extra heatpipe(?)
2) Use a T500/W500 fan in the T61/T61p HSF. I see the 500 series fan has more blades and have seen comments about it being quieter.

My questions are,

A) Will any of these mods result in a more silent machine with light use (word processing, photoshop, browsing with way too many open tabs), when using TPfancontrol?
B) Which of these mods will give the greatest improvement in noise level?
C) Can anyone confirm the T61p / discrete HSF fits well onto a T61 integrated 4:3 board in a T60 frankie?
D) Has anyone had success purchasing a lose high-blade-count 500 series fan on ebay?

In relation to purchasing a loose fan I noticed a number of sellers are advertising 500 series fans that have the same blade count as the T6x fans, but there are a couple of fans that look about right like this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-IBM-ThinkPa ... 4ac69b23e6 Downside is it comes with no labels and I’m wondering if it’s some kind of low-quality knockoff. Maybe it’d be better to purchase a used 500 series HSF and gutting the fan?

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#2 Post by TuuS » Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:39 pm

I've found the T61p fan works very well. You'll need to make a small modification to your retainer so it will clear the larger heatsink and remove the silicone pad that cools the discrete boards chipset and replace it with some good thermal paste so it efficiently cools the integrated chipset/gpu on your intel board.

I've found when properly fitted the fan will only run under heavy use on a unit with the same configuration.

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#3 Post by Morten » Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:49 pm

Thanks Tuus.

I went googling on my own as well and saw the German Thinkpad Forum's wiki talks about using a slightly modified T500 HSF (not just the fan unit, the whole thing). http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ad&act=url
At the bottom of page 4 is a post detailing the fins that need to be removed (go to the non-translated url to be able to see the full-size images). Looks like a no-brainer.

They specifically talk about an intel-GPU board like I have with the T500 discrete HSF 45N5492. The same is covered by "iwishiwasinwhistler" in this thread: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=101788

The 45N5492 HSF are available en masse on ebay at low prices (from $15 or so). By going this route, one gets the new fan blade design and a 3-heatpipe HSF with same (or better) performance than the T61p HSF, all at a very reasonable price, at least that's the plan 8)

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#4 Post by QWERTY Andreas » Thu Dec 05, 2013 2:57 am

Morten wrote:Thanks Tuus.

I went googling on my own as well and saw the German Thinkpad Forum's wiki talks about using a slightly modified T500 HSF (not just the fan unit, the whole thing). http://translate.google.com/translate?s ... ad&act=url
At the bottom of page 4 is a post detailing the fins that need to be removed (go to the non-translated url to be able to see the full-size images). Looks like a no-brainer.

They specifically talk about an intel-GPU board like I have with the T500 discrete HSF 45N5492. The same is covered by "iwishiwasinwhistler" in this thread: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=101788

The 45N5492 HSF are available en masse on ebay at low prices (from $15 or so). By going this route, one gets the new fan blade design and a 3-heatpipe HSF with same (or better) performance than the T61p HSF, all at a very reasonable price, at least that's the plan 8)
dont forget to undervolt you CPU :wink:

It Will reduce temps by quite a bit!
Thinkpad W500 (2.53 GHz P8700, 4 GB RAM, FireGL V5700, WUXGA)
Thinkpad T61F 14" (2.53 GHz QX9300, 6 GB RAM, Quadro FX570m 256 MB, SXGA). Advanced dock with AMD Radeon HD7750
Custom build ITX desktop (i5 4590, 8GB RAM, AMD R7 260X, custom watercooling)
Thinkpad 8, Fujitsu F-07C


FS: T61F

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#5 Post by Morten » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:48 pm

About that... how to do undervolting with w7 x64 ?

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#6 Post by QWERTY Andreas » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:44 am

Morten wrote:About that... how to do undervolting with w7 x64 ?
Just follow this guide; http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardwar ... guide.html
Thinkpad W500 (2.53 GHz P8700, 4 GB RAM, FireGL V5700, WUXGA)
Thinkpad T61F 14" (2.53 GHz QX9300, 6 GB RAM, Quadro FX570m 256 MB, SXGA). Advanced dock with AMD Radeon HD7750
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Thinkpad 8, Fujitsu F-07C


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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#7 Post by Morten » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:28 pm

QWERTY Andreas wrote:Just follow this guide; http://forum.notebookreview.com/hardwar ... guide.html
Questions:
- Will that special (hacked?) signed 64-bit vista driver work in w7?
- What exactly is involved with using half multipliers in RMclock, seeing as I have a T9300 CPU ?
- Has anyone tried using Throttlestop instead of RMClock? With W7-64?

Also, bonus question - I had RMClock running on one of my W7-x86 systems, and on every reboot, it would ask me for some kind of administrative authorizarion to run RMClock - is there a way to get rid of that prompt?

PS. Dejligt at få svar fra en Dansker ;-)

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Re: Frankenpad cooling questions

#8 Post by QWERTY Andreas » Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:26 pm

Morten wrote: - Will that special (hacked?) signed 64-bit vista driver work in w7?
I use it with Win 8 x64, so i think it will work
Morten wrote: - What exactly is involved with using half multipliers in RMclock, seeing as I have a T9300 CPU ?
I think it will only clock Down 100 MHz, nothing else..
Morten wrote: - Has anyone tried using Throttlestop instead of RMClock? With W7-64?
Not me :?
Morten wrote: Also, bonus question - I had RMClock running on one of my W7-x86 systems, and on every reboot, it would ask me for some kind of administrative authorizarion to run RMClock - is there a way to get rid of that prompt?
Should be possible in the Computer Adminstration under control panel.
Morten wrote: PS. Dejligt at få svar fra en Dansker ;-)
Intet problem, det er ikke mange man finder her :mrgreen:
Thinkpad W500 (2.53 GHz P8700, 4 GB RAM, FireGL V5700, WUXGA)
Thinkpad T61F 14" (2.53 GHz QX9300, 6 GB RAM, Quadro FX570m 256 MB, SXGA). Advanced dock with AMD Radeon HD7750
Custom build ITX desktop (i5 4590, 8GB RAM, AMD R7 260X, custom watercooling)
Thinkpad 8, Fujitsu F-07C


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