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T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:32 pm
by dr_st
My trusty old T60 2007-QPG has gotten a couple of nice upgrades in the past couple of days.

A bit of history

Back in 2008, when my T42 15" Flexview went out of warranty and started feeling a bit sluggish, and when I realized that T61 and subsequent laptops will not have IPS (in addition to being very bad looking in my view), I decided to get a T60 as the successor to the T42. I wanted a high-end Core 2 Duo model with SXGA+ IPS. I didn't feel like going for T60p because of them still commanding a relative premium, and because I thought that UXGA on a 15" screen might be too much for me, and I didn't want to deal with the extra heat of the V5200/5250 GPUs.

As it was already too late to find anything new, I started hunting for a used one. The 2007-QPG model caught my eye immediately, as it was the best 15" IPS non-p non-customized model that was offered for sale in Israel of the entire lineup. It took me about half a year, and a brief period with a Core Duo 2623-D3U to find someone selling the 2007-QPG, but eventually I secured it.

The original configuration is as follows:
T7200(2GHz), 1GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15in 1400x1050 LCD, 128MB ATI Radeon X1400, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11abg wireless, Bluetooth/Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Fingerprint reader, 6c Li-Ion batt, WinVista Business

When I bought the laptop, in spring 2009, the owner had already upgraded the RAM to 2GB, but the rest was stock. It still had almost 1.5 years of warranty left, which I eventually used to replace the LCD (white spots) and the optical drive (stopped reading/writing certain disks). However, for the 5 years I've had this laptop, I only now realized that I haven't upgraded anything internal on it (Cardbus/Expresscard adapters obviously don't count as such). Until yesterday. :)

Upgrade 1: Hard Drive

In the past ~2 years I've really started feeling that the laptop is slow, slow, even in simple tasks. Slow to boot, slow to open anything. I figured out that the old 5400RPM drive is the likely culprit. I didn't care enough to upgrade, because I have not being using the laptop all that much or for anything all that important. But the opportunity came up recently, when I purchased the X220, which came with a 320GB/7200RPM drive, which I decided to swap for an SSD. Once the SSD arrived, the 320GB drive was going into the T60.

I don't care for reinstalling operating systems, so I bought an Ultrabay SATA adapter to clone the drives. I used Acronis True Image to clone the entire drive, which allowed me to manually resize the two partitions (I didn't quite want them proportional). The process was very simple and friendly.

Contrary to the common suggestion to always put the new (target) drive inside and the old (source) drive externally, I did it the simple opposite way, cloning onto the new drive that was in the Ultrabay. I guess I wanted to see if it works. Well, it did. After completing the clone and swapping the drive, the laptop booted the new drive with no issues. Either the problems apply to USB-connected drives only (the Ultrabay goes directly to the ATA interface), or Acronis software simply does a better job than others cloning things well.

The difference in performance is quite visible. Boot, shutdown, hibernate and resume times are about 1.5-2 times as fast, and the laptop does suddenly feel "snappier" (although it is difficult to measure exactly). CrystalDiskMark shows noticeable differences as well - sequential / 512K access which was showing a measly 20-30MB/s on the old drive, shows 60-80MB/s on the new one. 4K speeds are also up, about 1.5-2 higher, although of course they are still meager compared to what an SSD would provide.

Upgrade 2: Wireless LAN

One other problem I've been having is that the T60 is located pretty far from the wireless router, and the walls are pretty thick concrete. Thus, the 3945ABG, which was never known as the king of Wifi cards, suffered from pretty poor performance, cutting out every once in a while and delivering atrocious speeds copying files over the network.

A few months ago I purchased the Intel Centrino 6200N, with the idea to put it into wife's X61 (to reduce palmrest temps), but that idea was eventually discarded. So I thought - why not use it for the T60?

After flashing the latest 2.27 no-whitelist BIOS from the link in this post (ISO version), I installed the new card (with the extension bracket) and booted. Intel's latest Wifi drivers include support for all their WLAN cards, so it picked it up right away.

I haven't yet done any extensive speed tests, but there seems to be a difference. Comparing to my work T60, which still has the 3945ABG, Inssider's scan shows a signal difference of about 5-10 dB, in favor of the 6200N, in the same location. Windows more often than not reports that it connects at wireless-N speeds (past 54Mbps), which was ofcourse impossible with the 3945ABG.

Overall, nice upgrades, and I hope they will provide a couple of more years of useful life to this old chap. Hopefully it won't suffer any untimely demise due to other factors (*knock on wood*)

Thanks for reading! :D

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:29 pm
by Penultimate
I just got a " 2007-CTO " T60p for 30 bucks at the thrift shop. The date is from 2010.
I am trying to determine for sure what I have spec-wise. Where are you finding the specs for your T60p unit?

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:35 pm
by dr_st
Lenovo's website has specs for preconfigured models. They don't work for CTOs, because CTO means customized-to-order and can basically be anything.

The only way to determine the specs is to load some software and check. The BIOS will show the basic stuff (CPU, RAM, HD size) though.

There were never any T60p units manufactured in 2010. You may be reading it wrong.

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:05 pm
by Penultimate
thank you for the quick info sir.
You are right, I took digital pics of all 3 computers serial # w/ my camera and the T60p is actually 2008-CTO, not 2007. It has " 07/08 " after the serial # which i assume means its manufactured in 2008.

One of the intel graphics T60 i got at the same time has a manufacture date in " 07/10 " and its also a " CTO " unit, which was what I was confusing. Sorry- thanks again.

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:10 pm
by dr_st
The manufacturing notation is YY/MM, so they were both manufactured in 2007, one in August, one in October. This should place them among the latest T60 units (my unit was manufactured in March 2007).

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:01 pm
by Penultimate
Thanks again for the info. I have noted that even on the 'CTO' units, there is still a product ID # beneath the CTO designation, and when I googled that, it pulled up the specs on all my new units.

The T60p I turned up is unfortunately pretty basic with the lowest speed 1.66 Core 2 Duo at the time, and the slightly slower FireGL V5250. I will be popping in a cheap T7200 when I get it from Ebay.

It appears that the product ID can in at least some cases be linked to the original CTO procurer or company, as in my case CNET links that CTO product line to a order by "St. Josephs Univesity".
http://www.cnet.com/products/lenovo-thi ... hdd/specs/

Strangely the page here-
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60p

Shows all T60p with at least a 2.0 core 2 CPU, but mine seems to come with a bottom end 1.66 core 2 duo even though its marked as a 'T60p' and does have the FireGL graphics. It looks like you could custom order a T60p with the lesser processor if you wanted to do so, and apparently St. Joseph University did so.

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:18 pm
by ajkula66
Penultimate wrote:Thanks again for the info. I have noted that even on the 'CTO' units, there is still a product ID # beneath the CTO designation, and when I googled that, it pulled up the specs on all my new units.
Not all the CTOs have the additional product number. Some are just plain ol' CTOs and you have to do a parts lookup on Lenovo's site using the machine's serial number to find out what exactly was included in the system at the time of shipping...
Shows all T60p with at least a 2.0 core 2 CPU, but mine seems to come with a bottom end 1.66 core 2 duo even though its marked as a 'T60p' and does have the FireGL graphics. It looks like you could custom order a T60p with the lesser processor if you wanted to do so, and apparently St. Joseph University did so.
ThinkWiki is a good, but incomplete reference...there are just so many "weird duck" configurations out there...

And when it comes to Lenovo - as well as IBM before them - if one is a big enough player they can (could?) order just about anything and everything when it comes to the configuration. I've owned (and sold on this forum) multiple systems that officially could never be put together in such a manner...

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:14 pm
by dr_st
A minor update regarding the Wifi upgrade:
dr_st wrote:Intel's latest Wifi drivers include support for all their WLAN cards, so it picked it up right away.
While the 6200N has worked off the bat, It appears that the TpFnF5.exe utility which allows the Wifi to be controlled via Fn+F5 combination did not recognize it. The recognition appears to be PCI DeviceID-based, and the outline to "hack in" support is outlined in the following guide:
http://www.yatow.de/out/fck_files/CE-pa ... ch-ibm.pdf

After a simple matter of changing out one of the supported device IDs for that one of the 6200N, the Fn+F5 functionality works again.

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:23 pm
by RealBlackStuff
That .pdf was made from info that was stolen from MY website! :evil:
Just in case: the BIOS info has long since been removed...

Re: T60 2007-QPG Upgrades: Hard Drive, Wireless LAN

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:57 pm
by dr_st
Well, thank you for the useful info, then! :bow: