T60 doesn't boots/show picture/beeps

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Wiking · #1 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:32 am

I have t60 2007fug with ati x1400.
Worked fine til now. Need to mention that I replaced the screen few months ago and it's work great. Today suddenly the picture on the screen freezed. I push the power button and to do hard shut down. Then I push power button and it powers up with the battery, ac and Bluetooth indicators on but the picture is blank. I see that the display powers on too but doesn't show anything. HDD indicator doesn't show that HDD works. It not beeps so I really don't know what is the problem. Pulled the battery out and tried only with ac but same result.

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ajkula66 · #2 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:49 am

Remove all the RAM and power the machine on. Does it beep now?

Wiking · #3 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:28 am

After posting, I did few more tests with ram and without it. With the ram in ( one stick each time and replacing the dimm location I started to receive two short beeps.
I don't think that it is a ram problem. My guess is that my mobo gone after 6.5 years of use.

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Wiking · #4 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:30 am

Sad because I just replaced the screen 3 mouths ago with new 1400x1050 sxga+ from Samsung.

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Wiking · #5 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:09 am

So, 2 short beeps mean motherboard? The ram is ok.
Before I order mobo, can you confirm that most likely it is fault motherboard?

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ajkula66 · #6 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:17 am

Wiking wrote: Before I order mobo, can you confirm that most likely it is fault motherboard?

It does sound like a faulty board.

Have you tried the static discharge:

Remove the battery, unplug the AC adapter. Pull out the hard and media drives.

Press the "power" button ten times in a row holding it down for ten seconds each time, and thirty seconds the last time around.

Plug the AC adapter - but nothing else - back in and try to power on.

Good luck.

Wiking · #7 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:20 am

Will try and write back.

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Wiking · #8 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:47 pm

Tried but the result is the same.

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ajkula66 · #9 Post by **ajkula66** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:03 pm

Wiking wrote:Tried but the result is the same.

Well, at least the T60 planars are quite inexpensive nowadays.

Good luck.

Wiking · #10 Post by **Wiking** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:04 pm

Yeah, thanks for the help

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axur-delmeria · #11 Post by **axur-delmeria** » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:59 pm

Looks like the T60/R60/X60 boards are beginning to die off. Then again, they're more than 7 years old by now. :I

Wiking · #12 Post by **Wiking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 1:44 am

axur-delmeria wrote:Looks like the T60/R60/X60 boards are beginning to die off. Then again, they're more than 7 years old by now. :I

That what I told to myself. It started to make problems only this year with dying display and now mobo.
Off topic, I have now for a while T420 with 1600x900 display. What can I tell... My T60 is much better in quality, screen size (4:3) and feels more solid and survivable against the T420. The only thing that my T60 need is a good ssd to run like a bunny.

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axur-delmeria · #13 Post by **axur-delmeria** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:25 am

That what I told to myself. It started to make problems only this year with dying display and now mobo.

One of my clients had a T60 14.1-inch non-widescreen that died late last year.
I also noticed some R60's with defective planars being offered for sale locally.
My cousin's X60s is getting cranky too: sometimes it won't boot, and she had to remove and reseat the RAM and battery to get it up and running again. :O

Pretty understandable though, as these were manufactured in 2006. :O

Wiking · #14 Post by **Wiking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:01 am

Maybe I can upgrade it somehow now with more powerful planar and CPU? Suggestions what to do? It is 14.1 inch model.

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ajkula66 · #15 Post by **ajkula66** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:04 am

You could throw in a board from a 14" (non-widescreen) T61/p. Minor mods would be required.

Wiking · #16 Post by **Wiking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:06 am

What will I get from this? Upgrading my t5600 CPU will give me significant upgrade?

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ajkula66 · #17 Post by **ajkula66** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:50 am

Wiking wrote:What will I get from this? Upgrading my t5600 CPU will give me significant upgrade?

Ability to use 8GB RAM as opposed to 3GB on T60

SATA II transfer speed - presuming Middleton's modded BIOS - vs. SATA I on T60

Access to newer/faster CPUs.

Wiking · #18 Post by **Wiking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:53 am

Can you write me a motherboard FRU that I need.

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ajkula66 · #19 Post by **ajkula66** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:01 am

Wiking wrote:Can you write me a motherboard FRU that I need.

There were three options for 14" T61/p and each of them had several different FRUs attached...

a) Intel X3100 integrated graphics

b) nVidia NVS140M GPU

c) nVidia FX570M GPU

Make up your mind on which one would work for you and we'll take it from there.

Wiking · #20 Post by **Wiking** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:11 am

Option b were the faulty boards, right?

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ajkula66 · #21 Post by **ajkula66** » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:33 am

Wiking wrote:Option b were the faulty boards, right?

Both "b" and "c" are theoretically prone to dying from "nVidia bug".

Wiking · #22 Post by **Wiking** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 5:11 am

Planar with ATI fireGL won't be a big upgrade? If I remember correct, my fsb is 667mhz. 3gb ram, WD Scorpio black and WD Scorpio blue as ultrabay HDD is my current setup.

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ajkula66 · #23 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:35 am

Wiking wrote:Planar with ATI fireGL won't be a big upgrade?

No, not really.

Wiking · #24 Post by **Wiking** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 7:44 am

So, replace with same board and save cash for ssd is the best option besides replacing to newer model.

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ajkula66 · #25 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 8:16 am

Wiking wrote:So, replace with same board and save cash for ssd is the best option besides replacing to newer model.

If it were mine, I'd buy a T61 with a busted screen or an XGA one, swap your lid on and enjoy.

Your machine, your call.

Wiking · #26 Post by **Wiking** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:35 am

Good idea but I don't want an Intel GPU one and the models with nvidia all are a gamble from what I read.

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ajkula66 · #27 Post by **ajkula66** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:37 am

Wiking wrote:Good idea but I don't want an Intel GPU one and the models with nvidia all are a gamble from what I read.

As I said before...

Your machine, your call.

Wiking · #28 Post by **Wiking** » Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:03 pm

How about this board ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-Thin ... OC:US:1123

I can buy it for 20$. will it fit into my 14.1 T60 2007-fug ?

Do I need to change Heat sink with fan for it ?

farmall · #29 Post by **farmall** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:03 pm

Thanks to this forum I learned to download the psref to see what fits what and what potential organ donors contain. That's the fast way to search Ebay and do your own homework. If seller doesn't show a pic of the tag I ask for it.

http://www.lenovo.com/psref/psrefs_withdrawn.shtml

I don't buy system boards any more because buying complete organ donors is as cheap and one gets many more parts sometimes including power supplies and docks. Swapping a complete base is much more efficient and people who bother to pull a board tend to want more money for it. Your machine, your call, but complete T60 donors are often around thirty dollars making it absurd IMO to buy a board for the same price.

Wiking · #30 Post by **Wiking** » Thu Jan 15, 2015 2:25 pm

Didn't think about this before.
How the link that you gave help me know if I can put fireGL planar into my T60 ?

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