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T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:23 pm
by jamesqf
Pressing the "Blue Thinkvantage button" as per the boot message no longer brings up the BIOS setup screen on my T61. The physical button seems to work: if I hold it down for several seconds, I'll get a series of beeps, but it doesn't do anything else, just continues with the boot process.

It used to work, as I used it about a year ago when fixing the fan and installing an SSD (see http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=113927 ), but not since. Otherwise, the machine works perfectly well after it boots.

Is there another way to access the BIOS setup? I just need to get into the BIOS to see whether this machine has Bluetooth (it's a 6465-CTO), and enable it if it does.

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:28 pm
by RealBlackStuff
F1

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:37 pm
by Cigarguy
Don't think I've ever used the Thinkvantage (aka spam) button. As RBS said, F1 works like a charm.

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:03 pm
by jamesqf
All I've ever used the button for is to access the BIOS setup - well, that's what it says it's for on the boot screen! - but then I've always run Linux exclusively, so anything else it does probably wouldn't work for me anyway.

The F1 did do the trick. Apparently no Bluetooth on the machine, though, or at least nothing about it in the menus.

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:34 pm
by Cigarguy
Unless you have it switched off in BIOS, Bluetooth would be an OS issue not hardware or BIOS.

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:30 pm
by jamesqf
Yeah, but I didn't remember whether this machine had Bluetooth in the first place. There was no entry for it in /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi, so it wasn't active. I don't know of any way to check for it being present but turned off, other than to see if there was an entry in the BIOS.

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:33 pm
by jronald
I have been down the Bluetooth Rd on these machines.

ON in Bios
Bluetooth driver loaded
Access connections loaded
Then it might turn on. Not saying it will work, but it will turn on anyway.

Ron

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:01 am
by jamesqf
Ah, but there's no Bluetooth entry in the BIOS, therefore I assume the machine doesn't have it, no?

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:45 am
by RRHODY
What does Device Manager show?

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:31 pm
by jronald
Device manager will not show anything if:
Bios does not see it
AND
The driver is not loaded, found that out the hard way.
ALSO
Even if its in device, with out access, its a no go.

Ron

Re: T61: Thinkvantage button doesn't access BIOS?

Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:16 am
by jamesqf
RRHODY wrote:What does Device Manager show?
Device Manager? Is that a Windows thing? I only do Linux. (OpenSuSE with FVWM2 window manager.)

Bottom line: if the BIOS doesn't have anything for Bluetooth, then the hardware isn't present, no?