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Lenovo Updater

#1 Post by taichi » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:19 pm

Recently I upgraded my T60P from Vista to Windows 7, and lost my ThinkVantage Console. The replacement for it is, apparently, the Lenovo Updater. My question is whether this is a good thing to install. I had read, in the context of Lenovo's installing Silverfish a year or two ago, that the Lenovo Updater had certain vulnerabilities with regards to hacking. I'd be very interested in anyone's opinion of this.

Also, when I had the ThinkVantage it wanted to install a new ATI package for my 5200 GPU, but I didn't do it before installing 7. From memory, ThinkVantage pretty much automates the whole installation process, which I would not mind as I have never been comfortable updating GPU drivers. I know most diehards like to uninstall everything completely before installing a new driver, but then, of course, you can't roll back.

I would like to install the ATI package as it contains the Catalyst Control Center, which allows some tweaking.

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Re: Lenovo Updater

#2 Post by cadillacmike68 » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:13 am

I haven't had a problem with GPU updates, but I'm not as active with the machines as some others. I kind of get my systems where I want them, and leave them alone.

Not everyone considers the system updater bloatware, but some do. I have Lenovo System Update and the Thinkvantage toolbox, plus the Power manager, Access connections, active protection (for the HDD) and a couple others.

I think it was a different package, Lenovo Solution Center that has the silverfish (actually superfish) issues, but further reading reveals that it was preinstalled on some computers. Still the solution Center is a solution that is still looking for a problem in my opinion.

Since the superfish fiasco was a relatively recent thing a Lenovo Win 7 install should Not have that problem.

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Re: Lenovo Updater

#3 Post by taichi » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:15 pm

On my T60P the driver that is installed for the ATI 5200 is 8.56.1.0.0, , whereas the current ATI/AMD driver appears to be 9.12 / 8.681.0.0000.
Is this what other T60P users running Windows 7 have installed?
If so, is there a download package which includes the Catalyst Control Center?

My concern about Lenovo System Update (and downloading driver packages through it) not only comes from some issues noted in 2015, but also issues with Lenovo Solution Center as recently as 2016.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing ... trustwave/

Apparently these global updaters can give administrative or hierarchical rights to hackers, often through the device manager.

I'm not averse to a global updater installing a GPO package for me, but I'm not sure I would want it to automatically update the bios.

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Re: Lenovo Updater

#4 Post by wujstefan » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:20 pm

Well, I personally ran modded drivers (5200 is actually ATI X1600) on my T60p and it worked very nice.

As for LSU, I wouldn't call that a bloatware - since unless you turn it on, it just sits in there and does not consume you computers' power.
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Re: Lenovo Updater

#5 Post by cadillacmike68 » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:23 pm

taichi wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:15 pm
On my T60P the driver that is installed for the ATI 5200 is 8.56.1.0.0, , whereas the current ATI/AMD driver appears to be 9.12 / 8.681.0.0000.
Is this what other T60P users running Windows 7 have installed?
If so, is there a download package which includes the Catalyst Control Center?

My concern about Lenovo System Update (and downloading driver packages through it) not only comes from some issues noted in 2015, but also issues with Lenovo Solution Center as recently as 2016.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing ... trustwave/

Apparently these global updaters can give administrative or hierarchical rights to hackers, often through the device manager.

I'm not averse to a global updater installing a GPO package for me, but I'm not sure I would want it to automatically update the bios.
The link's problem is with Solution Center, which I took off my systems last year. I don't allow system update to start with the system It only starts if I start it manually and I only do that if I think there is a driver update that I need, like when setting up a new system off a standard drive image. Then I shut it down again.

Set flash BIOS from LAN to disabled will prevent the last item from occurring.

I never had a T60 so can't answer to that part.
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