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Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

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Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#1 Post by xsixt » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:50 pm

Wondering whether it is the 4-cell or the 6-cell battery, that sits flush with the 15" (non-wide) T60p chassis?

I have the 9 cell currently, and that one protrudes quite a bit from the case.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#2 Post by cadillacmike68 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 1:32 am

I think both the 4 and 6 cell batts will fit flush.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#3 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:14 am

There is no 4-cell for a T60, only 6-cell (flush) and 9-cell (protrude).
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#4 Post by xsixt » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:20 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:14 am
There is no 4-cell for a T60, only 6-cell (flush) and 9-cell (protrude).
Legend! Thanks for clearing that up.

I read that the 4-cell sits flush with another model - perhaps the 14" Widescreen (T61)?
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#5 Post by dr_st » Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:45 am

xsixt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:20 am
I read that the 4-cell sits flush with another model - perhaps the 14" Widescreen (T61)?
Yes. Early 14" widescreens had only flush 4-cells. This includes the Z60t/Z61t (Z6x 4-cell battery) and 14" wide T61/R61/T400/R400 (T/R 14W 4-cell battery).

Since the T410 series, the design changed and once again they have flush 6-cells.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#6 Post by xsixt » Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:42 am

dr_st wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:45 am
xsixt wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:20 am
I read that the 4-cell sits flush with another model - perhaps the 14" Widescreen (T61)?
Yes. Early 14" widescreens had only flush 4-cells. This includes the Z60t/Z61t (Z6x 4-cell battery) and 14" wide T61/R61/T400/R400 (T/R 14W 4-cell battery).

Since the T410 series, the design changed and once again they have flush 6-cells.
Good trivia - thank you.

Surprisingly difficult to find this sort of info by web searching, it's like putting a FRU into ebay and seeing all the "Genuine" "Replacement" options.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#7 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:34 am

xsixt wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 3:42 am
dr_st wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 5:45 am
Yes. Early 14" widescreens had only flush 4-cells. This includes the Z60t/Z61t (Z6x 4-cell battery) and 14" wide T61/R61/T400/R400 (T/R 14W 4-cell battery).

Since the T410 series, the design changed and once again they have flush 6-cells.
Good trivia - thank you.

Surprisingly difficult to find this sort of info by web searching, it's like putting a FRU into ebay and seeing all the "Genuine" "Replacement" options.
Ain't that the truth.

And the two different style x61 batteries makes it even worse. I have all three styles of T61 (14" reg. 14" WS and 15" WS). The 14" WS is approx 1/2 in shorter front to back from the other two. They couldn't figure out how to use the same basic planar & case style for all 3???
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#8 Post by xsixt » Thu Nov 02, 2017 12:20 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:34 am
Ain't that the truth.

And the two different style x61 batteries makes it even worse. I have all three styles of T61 (14" reg. 14" WS and 15" WS). The 14" WS is approx 1/2 in shorter front to back from the other two. They couldn't figure out how to use the same basic planar & case style for all 3???
Some of the smaller batteries are rare too - I thought I got lucky when I found a "brand new" genuine X61T 4-cell a couple of years ago. When it arrived after it's 30 day detour around the world using "NL Mail", it was indeed genuine and brand new with it's 0 charge count, but it was completely DOA :lol:

I ordered a supposedly genuine 6-cell T60 battery from ebay - hopefully it's real and works otherwise it's money back guarantee time :mrgreen:
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#9 Post by NonesensE » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:50 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:34 am
And the two different style x61 batteries makes it even worse.
Yeah, especially the 4 cell slim battery for the X6xs is hard to find (there are no non-genuine batteries in this case). I'm using a thick 4 cell battery now in my X62s, which is not really beautiful.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#10 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 am

NonesensE wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:50 am
Yeah, especially the 4 cell slim battery for the X6xs is hard to find (there are no non-genuine batteries in this case). I'm using a thick 4 cell battery now in my X62s, which is not really beautiful.
I found one of the flat X61s batteries, though the capacity on it is pretty bad.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#11 Post by dr_st » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:15 am

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 am
I found one of the flat X61s batteries, though the capacity on it is pretty bad.
And it was never good to begin with! :twisted:
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#12 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:52 am

A Core 2 Duo and a tiny battery, thats pretty much a desktop with an attached keyboard and screen.

A Core 2 Quad and a tiny battery, well that IS a desktop. Would you like to know the battery life of a W700 with a 7wh battery .
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#13 Post by xsixt » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:40 am

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 am
I found one of the flat X61s batteries, though the capacity on it is pretty bad.
Very funny :lol:
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#14 Post by NonesensE » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 am
NonesensE wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:50 am
Yeah, especially the 4 cell slim battery for the X6xs is hard to find (there are no non-genuine batteries in this case). I'm using a thick 4 cell battery now in my X62s, which is not really beautiful.
I found one of the flat X61s batteries, though the capacity on it is pretty bad.
I'd say, re-cell it, but today's cells in that form factor aren't really better than the old ones, whereas the round 18650 cells made a huge leap in capacity.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#15 Post by zoltan87 » Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:23 am

NonesensE wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:42 am


I found one of the flat X61s batteries, though the capacity on it is pretty bad.
I'd say, re-cell it, but today's cells in that form factor aren't really better than the old ones, whereas the round 18650 cells made a huge leap in capacity.
Is re-celling a doable option? I have a few T60 batteries, and the 18650 cells in them are in pretty bad shape, some of the batteries last for about 20 minutes. Also I think I read it somewhere, that when these batteries die completely, the battery circuit in them shuts down, and even if we replaced the cells, you wouldn't be able to charge it. I am still thinking about reading up on this matter, but there is not much information out (in english at least), and what there is, sometimes contradicts different sources.
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Re: Which battery sits flush with 15" T60 / T60p case?

#16 Post by NonesensE » Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:26 pm

zoltan87 wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:23 am
NonesensE wrote:
Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

I'd say, re-cell it, but today's cells in that form factor aren't really better than the old ones, whereas the round 18650 cells made a huge leap in capacity.
Is re-celling a doable option? I have a few T60 batteries, and the 18650 cells in them are in pretty bad shape, some of the batteries last for about 20 minutes. Also I think I read it somewhere, that when these batteries die completely, the battery circuit in them shuts down, and even if we replaced the cells, you wouldn't be able to charge it. I am still thinking about reading up on this matter, but there is not much information out (in english at least), and what there is, sometimes contradicts different sources.
Some non-genuine batteries don't lock up. But the real thing is this:
viewtopic.php?f=30&t=124273
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