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T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#1 Post by olex126 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:03 pm

Hi Gang!

Were there ever any 14" 4:3 IPS SXGA (1400 x 1050) screens either initially produced or currently in production for this series? Anything new with LED backlighting?

I have a half-dozen 14" T60 and T61 units, all working, and I'd like to upgrade a couple of them to IPS if possible.

Any "Screen Gurus" here that could suggest a close alternative if true IPS is a no-go? No problem with cutting, hacking, soldering, Dremelling or other "unusual" techniques to get a screen to work :banghead: !

Thanks in advance.

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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#2 Post by dr_st » Thu Mar 01, 2018 12:51 am

olex126 wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:03 pm
Hi Gang!

Were there ever any 14" 4:3 IPS SXGA (1400 x 1050) screens either initially produced or currently in production for this series? Anything new with LED backlighting?
Unfortunately, no.
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#3 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:30 am

There were no 14" laptops available before 2013 with a drop-in replacement IPS panel.
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#4 Post by xsixt » Thu Mar 01, 2018 6:49 am

olex126 wrote:
Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:03 pm
Any "Screen Gurus" here that could suggest a close alternative if true IPS is a no-go? No problem with cutting, hacking, soldering, Dremelling or other "unusual" techniques to get a screen to work :banghead: !
I believe I read a thread on here which stated there really aren't any "good" 14" panels ever available - just "average" ones. So any swap might not really be worth it.

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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#5 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:00 am

Thinkpad4by3's Law of the Universe.

The efficiency of two screens equally sized with equal numbers if pixels are equal. The time spent by a 4:3 user complaining about 16:9 is proportional to the inefficiency working with a 16:9 display, therefore the amount of useful work extracted is equal.

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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#6 Post by Cigarguy » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:44 am

I found, to my eyes, the 14" screens from a T60 or T61 to be better than newer non-IPS panels.

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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#7 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:48 am

Agreed.
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#8 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:08 am

Cigarguy wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:44 am
I found, to my eyes, the 14" screens from a T60 or T61 to be better than newer non-IPS panels.
Not the 14" SXGA+ (1400x1050) T60 I encountered once. I couldn't find a decent viewing angle at all: if I tilt the screen such that the center was perpendicular to my line of sight, the colors at bottom of the screen were already inverting. Unfortunately I was unable to check which panel it had.
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#9 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:10 am

I havent had my T61 in years but I remember my T60p's panel being superior to the T61 though they were both SXGA+ 14"
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#10 Post by xsixt » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:26 pm

Cigarguy wrote:
Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:44 am
I found, to my eyes, the 14" screens from a T60 or T61 to be better than newer non-IPS panels.
Agreed as well - but that's not saying much, as newer TN panels are horrendous. Some of the worst panels I have ever seen were like immediately post GFC cheap laptops - LED backlit TN.. just nasty as. Maybe really poor quality polarizers or immature LED tech.
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#11 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:58 pm

I have a TN panel on my 755C and it is gorgeous. Compared to my X230's IPS, it is a run for the money who has the better colors(the 755C is limited to 256 or 65K I think).
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Re: T6x 14" SXGA IPS

#12 Post by TuuS » Tue May 29, 2018 6:54 pm

the really bad screens are likely chinese knock-offs or generic replacements. I've seen some nice 14" screens on these models, but they still don't compare with 15" ips

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