Should I buy a T60?

[axur-delmeria]

What kills the t60 is the fact it can't handle 720p60fps video in browser or downloaded via mpv so it's really relegated to a text editor these days.

That's still the fault of the weak graphics. None of the T60's GPUs have decode acceleration for video codecs relevant to web browsers.

[kfzhu1229]

Your wrong with the weak graphics wrt UI, it'll run any Linux UI fine. What kills the t60 is the fact it can't handle 720p60fps video in browser or downloaded via mpv so it's really relegated to a text editor these days.

Even a T61 or T400/T500 cannot handle that on Youtube. The h264 decoders on those only handle up to 30fps and 1920x1920 resolution last time I searched it up on Wikipedia.
But with enhanced h264ify, I can disable 60fps options in YouTube and also make it h264. Unfortunately that means videos shot at 1080p60 will only play at 720p because for those 1080p no longer have a <=30fps option. However if it were shot with 1080p or 2k/4k 24/25/30fps then 1080p is all fine - providing you have enough VRAM as 128MB is not enough for anything over WXGA+.
But yes I get your point that on a T60 unless you have the likes of T7400 or expensive T7600, it can't handle that well even by software decoding, and 1080p is completely out of the window.

That's still the fault of the weak graphics. None of the T60's GPUs have decode acceleration for video codecs relevant to web browsers.

Yup exactly again only the GeForce 8xxx series (Quadro NVS 135M/140M FX360M/FX520M are based on them too) and up support full h264 hardware decoding up to the specs I mentioned.
I believe on the Radeon side it's HD 3xxx or 4xxx series and up (I had a crap Asus laptop but with Mobility Radeon HD 4550 and it played Youtube just fine for the brief moment it was alive) and now the new YouTube UI cucked them all over again as my Radeon HD 5450 no longer does youtube smoothly in Windows 10

[Dekks]

ocaml works really well with emacs which has dunes-mode now along with tuareg & merlin

I actually use emacs daily - but only for note taking.
I am aware of tuareg and merlin, though dunes-mode is new to me.

If there was any up-to-date resource on the best way to set these tools up/use them in 2021,
(most guidance you can find online comes from pre-dune era)

or if I had access to a mentor to guide me I probably would have gone this route.
Otherwise figuring it all out on my own is just too much of an uphill battle..

Install all 3 via Melpa, dune-mode is on github but ocaml is way off the beaten path and too french for me

[atagunov]

Install all 3 via Melpa, dune-mode is on github but ocaml is way off the beaten path and too french for me

Melpa? Is that is some sort of Emacs black magic?...

There is "editor-integration/emacs/dune.el" inside https://github.com/ocaml/dune which mentions "dune-mode" so it seems it should be coming down to my machine when I install dune. Though who knows.. "ocaml user-setup install" doesn't seem to be adding this to either of "~/.emacs" or "~/.emacs.d"

[Dekks]

https://melpa.org/

[WarMachine]

Hello,

The T60 is a fantastic machine ! The quality of fabrication is really outstanding, the laptop is relatively thin, but sturdy, the keyboard is a joy (not as much as laptops like the Thinkpad 600, the X3x, the T4x, or the T2x, but if you haven't used these, you will probably love the keyboard very much).

I've used mine for a lot of time (from 2008 to 2015), I installed XP, then 7, then 8, then Debian. Today, it still has Debian, with Fluxbox. I replaced it with a T400 that I use since.

When I bought it, it sported a Core Duo (a T2400) but I quickly replaced it with a T7200 and I bought my first SSD to fit in this laptop in 2010, an OCZ Vertex 2 (the first revision, which still goes strong today).

But If I had to buy one in 2021 (if I hadn't already mine), I would buy it just to increase my collection. It's not really a machine usable nowadays. To weak. I like to use it to listen music from time to time (my original 9-cell battery still gives me 1 hour of use), I can also use it to write articles for my blog (but I prefer my T42 or even more, of course, the Thinkpad 600, which has absolutely no competitor when it comes to the keyboard feeling).

I would probably use it more if i could find an SXGA+ display (I had one years ago but I got problems with the backlight and I had to put an XGA screen instead). And I never found a "new" SXGA+ display (that's what I have on my T42 and it's really nice)...



W.