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Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:50 pm**

I came across this review of one of the high end T60p laptops:

http://www.desktoppipeline.com/18140119 ... eed_pl_dtp

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:47 pm**

This is the first sighting of the V5200 that I've seen *anywhere* and the reviewer bareley mentions it!

-darren

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:04 pm**

darrenf wrote:This is the first sighting of the V5200 that I've seen *anywhere* and the reviewer bareley mentions it!

And I couldn't help but notice the "512MB of on-board RAM" mentioned on page 1?!?!?

I wish that were true...

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:22 pm**

ajazzman wrote:I came across this review of one of the high end T60p laptops:

http://www.desktoppipeline.com/18140119 ... eed_pl_dtp

Furthermore, I don't see that laptop in the tabook. With the features Mr. Haskin describes (i.e. T2600, EVDO, Finger, etc.) that T60p HAS to have the DVDRW. And I really wanted to get a review on that drive...

I'm not sure he deserves to have reviewed such a machine as the T60p!

Not a very good review IMO.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:04 pm**

jeremivw wrote:Furthermore, I don't see that laptop in the tabook.

I believe I see it in Tabook

Tabook.pdf - February 2006 - Version 303

Tabook.pdf wrote:T60p 2623-DDU Core Duo T2500 2.00 1GB 15.0" UXGA 256MB 100GB 7200 DVD±RW ✶ Intel 11a/b/g Verizon Blue 9-cell 3-yrs Feb 06

Display
Some: 14.1" (358.1mm) XGA (1024x768) TFT color / 150 nits / anti-glare
Some: 14.1" (358.1mm) SXGA+ (1400x1050) TFT color / 150 nits / anti-glare
Some: 15.0" (381.0mm) SXGA+ (1400x1050) TFT color / 200 nits / anti-glare
FlexView display with wide viewing angle and high density using IPS technology
Some: 15.0" (381.0mm) UXGA (1600x1200) TFT color / 200 nits / anti-glare
FlexView display with wide viewing angle and high density using IPS technology

Graphics
Some: ATI® MOBILITY™ RADEON® X1300 M52 / PCI Express x16 / 64MB GDDR1
Some: ATI MOBILITY RADEON X1400 M54 / PCI Express x16 / 128MB GDDR1
Some: ATI MOBILITY FireGL™ V5200 M56 / PCI Express x16 / 256MB GDDR3

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:10 pm**

Sorry for the confusion, man. I wasn't very clear earlier.

The one David Haskin mentions in this article doesn't seem to exist. He lists T2600 combined with UXGA, EVDO and yet only a DVD/CDRW combo drive. My point was that all tabook T60p's (2007 series) that I can see with combo drives don't have the EVDO. Given that some of his other facts are OBVIOUSLY wrong (512MB V5200) I'm assuming that he's wrong about the optical drive, too. It wasn't an extinsive review and he must not have tested very thoroughly (to miss BIG specs like those). IMO.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:15 pm**

Are we sure this guy isn't on crack and reviewed a spiral notebook with info written on the looseleaf?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:19 pm**

own6volvos wrote:Are we sure this guy isn't on crack and reviewed a spiral notebook with info written on the looseleaf?

Nope; I don't think we can prove that conclusively.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:24 pm**

I wonder about the weight though. He states 5.8 pounds for T60p. That's entry for T60. T60p is 6.25 lbs according to all specs I've seen. He's half a pound off...

I wonder if he actually had a T60p at all...volvos might be right!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:28 pm**

You guys have confirmed what I suspected about this review. Basically, it is very questionable!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:31 pm**

Looks like I've got to do all of the legwork.

From the same Tabook posted above:

Tabook.pdf wrote:Mini PCI Express
Intel 11a/b/g32
11a/b/g32
WWAN16
Two Mini PCI Express slots / only 802.11 wireless is customer upgradable
Some: 11a/b/g wireless4, Mini PCI Express adapter, Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
Some: 11a/b/g wireless4, ThinkPad 11a/b/g Mini PCIe Adapter, Atheros AR5006EX
Some: Wireless WAN, Sierra Wireless 1xEV-DO Network Adapter, Mini PCIe Adapter,
EV-DO/1xRTT, WWAN antenna on display, service contract reqd with Verizon® Wireless

EDIT: I see what you mean about the Combo drive. But wouldn't you really rather have a Multiburner (DVD burner) anyway?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:32 pm**

ajazzman wrote:You guys have confirmed what I suspected about this review. Basically, it is very questionable!

Not just questionable. Out right wrong.

And his "experience" with EVDO is ignorant. To limit EVO to 100Kbps is insane. I use EVDO on my current lappy and get over 1Mbps (close to 2 sometimes) all over DFW...and that's Sprint (which isn't supposed to be as good as Verizon).

I googled the title of this article and it wasn't top 20 or so (that I saw).

Jazzman how'd you find this article???

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:39 pm**

jeremivw wrote:
ajazzman wrote:You guys have confirmed what I suspected about this review. Basically, it is very questionable!
Not just questionable. Out right wrong.

And his "experience" with EVDO is ignorant. To limit EVO to 100Kbps is insane. I use EVDO on my current lappy and get over 1Mbps (close to 2 sometimes) all over DFW...and that's Sprint (which isn't supposed to be as good as Verizon).

I googled the title of this article and it wasn't top 20 or so (that I saw).

Jazzman how'd you find this article???

I used Yahoo! search engine with "Thinkpad T60 Review" and it was the 6th item returned!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:43 pm**

jeremivw wrote:And his "experience" with EVDO is ignorant. To limit EVO to 100Kbps is insane. I use EVDO on my current lappy and get over 1Mbps (close to 2 sometimes) all over DFW...and that's Sprint (which isn't supposed to be as good as Verizon).

Tsk, Tsk.

desktoppipeline wrote:the laptop has a built-in radio for Verizon Wireless' EV-DO service, which provides typical download speeds in the 500 Kbps range.

When EV-DO service is not available, the built-in radio falls back to older 1xRTT cellular data service, with speeds of about 100 Kbps.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:51 pm**

GomJabbar wrote:
jeremivw wrote:And his "experience" with EVDO is ignorant. To limit EVO to 100Kbps is insane. I use EVDO on my current lappy and get over 1Mbps (close to 2 sometimes) all over DFW...and that's Sprint (which isn't supposed to be as good as Verizon).
Tsk, Tsk.

desktoppipeline wrote:the laptop has a built-in radio for Verizon Wireless' EV-DO service, which provides typical download speeds in the 500 Kbps range.

When EV-DO service is not available, the built-in radio falls back to older 1xRTT cellular data service, with speeds of about 100 Kbps.

Yeah, I know. Not nice. Sorry.

I see the 500 now, but still, that is half what EVDO does regularly for me (in TX and CA) MINIMUM. 4-500Kbps was 1xRTT speeds (EVDO is next gen of CDMA).

BTW: I use http://www.bandwidthspeedtest.com and select the 1xEV test option! Range ALWAYS 1.1 - 1.8Mbps for my tests!

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:10 pm**

jeremivw wrote:BTW: I use http://www.bandwidthspeedtest.com and select the 1xEV test option! Range ALWAYS 1.1 - 1.8Mbps for my tests!

I'm jealous!

I'm stuck in a two-year contract (PC card and Phone) with Cingular. I only have EDGE available in my area with Cingular, yet I could get Verizon's EV-DO service if I didn't mind paying the early termination fee on (2) lines.

Posted: **Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:50 am**

GomJabbar wrote:I'm stuck in a two-year contract (PC card and Phone) with Cingular. I only have EDGE available in my area with Cingular, yet I could get Verizon's EV-DO service if I didn't mind paying the early termination fee on (2) lines.

That stinks, man...but for a while, EDGE (GSM right?) was the shizzle. It took EVDO to clobber it (and clobber it does

).

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