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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:17 pm
by Steve_Jobs
Eric Giles wrote:
Steve_Jobs wrote:I received my thinkpad yesterday and I am not impressed. The computer actually runs really slow, slower than my 1.3ghz centrino Dell 8600. Why does the computer have a centrino processor? I also checked my HD size and it is 140gb total instead of the 160gb size I ordered.

BTW, the 15.4 thinppad t61p is not available for order on the Lenovo web site. I'm guessing to stop people from sending in orders...
Ok, that's not possible that it runs slower than your Dell. All of these are Centrino processors-not sure why that is a suprise. On the hard drive thing-you do realize that even a brand new, unformatted 160GB drive will not actually show up as 160GB? The reason you aren't seeing 20GB is because of that, plus there is a hidden recovery partition where the factory preload is stored. It is normal to have that bit of hard drive space used on a newer Thinkpad. Be glad you didn't get Vista-you would have even less free space.

Now as far as your slow system speed-left click on the battery maximiser gauge next to the system tray, and select High System Performance. That will make sure your processor is running at it's full speed and not being stepped down via power management. You can also get rid of Norton and go to a less resource hungry antivirus system to help speed things up a bit.

I have a T60p with a T7200 Core 2 Duo CPU (2GHz), 2GB RAM, ATI FireGL 5250, 100GB 7200RPM drive, and Windows XP Pro. It is not slow by any means-in fact, it is very, very fast. Try the things I mentioned, and maybe even do a full recovery using the Thinkvantage button to make sure you have a clean OS image.
Thanks for the advice Eric!

Being a first time thinkpad owner, do you have any other tips for me?

I love this website!

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:20 pm
by Steve_Jobs
pheos wrote:I don't... shipping a notebook around the world in 3 day... thats pretty cool!
I agree.

We should get express shipping as standard for waiting 1-2 months...

The shipping is fast. Facotor in the eagerness along with the system build wait time.

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:27 pm
by danny_isr
and i got this :

ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 12:58 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:54 pm
by pheos
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 12:58 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
Yeah I basically got the same... called them and they say thats going to be here tomorrow before 10.30am...

I will post some pics and benchmarks once I got it...

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:59 am
by jchow
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 12:23 A.M. IMPORT SCAN
ANCHORAGE,
AK, US 08/15/2007 6:01 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/15/2007 2:14 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
CHEK LAP KOK,
HK 08/15/2007 4:28 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
08/15/2007 2:04 P.M. HUB SCAN
KOWLOON BAY,
HK 08/15/2007 1:50 P.M. PICKUP SCAN
HK 08/14/2007 5:48 A.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED


can anyone tell me when it will get here =[ its 8/17 12:03AM =[ haha gosh i hope no delays =[ If I dont get it tomorrow... THEN I WONT GET IT TILL MONDAY!! ILL GO CRAZY!!! YOU HEAR?!?CRAZY!!! :cry: :lol:

o yah it should be going to SD

(edit:
o yah,
Tracking Detail | Help

Tracking Number: 1Z 0E2 5E4 D3 0376 788 5
Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Rescheduled Delivery: 08/17/2007
Shipped To: SAN DIEGO, CA, US
Shipped/Billed On: 08/14/2007
Service: EXPRESS
Weight: 4.30 Kgs )

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:31 am
by BradS
Rescheduled Delivery: 08/17/2007
Shipped/Billed On: 08/15/2007
Service: EXPRESS
Weight: 3.70 Kgs

Package Progress
Location Date Local Time Description
PHILADELPHIA,
PA, US 08/17/2007 3:31 A.M. IN TRANSIT TO
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 08/17/2007 3:30 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
08/17/2007 12:04 A.M. IMPORT SCAN
LOUISVILLE,
KY, US 08/16/2007 1:21 P.M. BROKERAGE RELEASED SHIPMENT. SHIPMENT IS SUBMITTED TO CLEARING AGENCY FOR FURTHER CLEARANCE
Ordered 8/12, shipped 8/15 and...

it looks like I should be receiving it today, 8/17

I can't wait :P

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:12 am
by jchow
Tracking Number: 1Z 0E2 5E4 D3 0376 788 5
Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Rescheduled Delivery: 08/17/2007
Shipped To: SAN DIEGO, CA, US
Shipped/Billed On: 08/14/2007
Service: EXPRESS
Weight: 4.30 Kgs




Package Progress
Location Date Local Time Description
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 12:23 A.M. IMPORT SCAN
ANCHORAGE,
AK, US 08/15/2007 6:01 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/15/2007 2:14 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
CHEK LAP KOK,
HK 08/15/2007 4:28 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
08/15/2007 2:04 P.M. HUB SCAN
KOWLOON BAY,
HK 08/15/2007 1:50 P.M. PICKUP SCAN
HK 08/14/2007 5:48 A.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED


Mines isnt coming today huh? =[ usually it will say out for delivery on the day its supposed to be delivered huh?=[ darn now i got to wait until monday? =[

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:19 am
by danny_isr
same here , i guess i wont see it this week

ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/17/2007 8:50 A.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL / BROKERAGE RELEASED SHIPMENT. SHIPMENT IS SUBMITTED TO CLEARING AGENCY FOR FURTHER CLEARANCE
08/17/2007 1:11 A.M. IMPORT SCAN
08/17/2007 1:04 A.M. IMPORT SCAN
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 11:36 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ANCHORAGE,
AK, US 08/16/2007 7:04 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
08/16/2007 6:50 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
ONTARIO,
CA, US 08/16/2007 12:58 P.M. THE SHIPMENT IS BEING HELD BY BROKERAGE FOR REASONS BEYOND UPS' CONTROL
CHEK LAP KOK,
HK 08/16/2007 9:47 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
08/16/2007 2:51 P.M. EXPORT SCAN
08/16/2007 2:50 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
KOWLOON BAY,
HK 08/16/2007 1:53 P.M. PICKUP SCAN
HK 08/15/2007 5:32 A.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:45 pm
by jchow
darn ups.... =\ i betcha mines is just lost or they screwed up some how -_- ehh =\ hopefulyl we get it like MONDAY the soonest =\ o wait ill be gone till about monday afternoon or wed afternoon... darn =[

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:18 pm
by Eric Giles
Still no status update on the T61p 14.1" SXGA+ I ordered on 8/08-ESD is still showing 8/27. It just seems odd that a number of other people here (and on other forums) ordered almost the exact same unit with the same screen after I did and their orders shipped out within a day or so. Mine is pretty much a basic configuration too.

I wonder-since I placed the order thru EPP if maybe it would be put behind regular consumer orders thru the website-anyone have an idea on that?

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:48 pm
by danny_isr
mine was EPP as well

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:44 am
by jchow
same here mines was epp as well.. =\ o yah how long did your guys' take to get out of customs?? or how long have you guys been waiting? just so i can get an idea abotu how long im going to need to wait.. -_-

How to track your order?

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:31 pm
by atekant
So, I ordered a top-seller T61p yesterday (6460-6YU). I was told they were in stock and would ship right away.

Then I received a confirmation email and nothing else. Of course now it is the weekend and I am chewing my fingers here.

The confirmation email didn't have a live link to my order, just a confirmation and a customer number.

How does one track orders with that info, is there a general URL to plug them into? I am in Canada if it makes a difference.

Thanks
Anxious

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:59 am
by Cowboy6032
https://www.directlenovo.com/orderstatus/
That's how I checked my status...but my confirmation email had a link in it w/ this already filled in...dunno. Don't know what their wait is.....

I ordered 8/16/07, w/ the coupon you guys were flashing that day...just got an email this morning that it shipped on 8/18/07!!!! WOO HOO...I'll have my new T61 in NO TIME!!! :D :banana: :D :banana: :beer:

Ahem...here's my order:

SYS.6465CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM
6465CTO CTO THINKPAD T61 WIDESCREEN-1Y
42V8191 INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7500
42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US ENG.
42V8287 SBB 15.4 WSXGA+ TFT
42X0817 SBB INT GMAX3100 GM965W
41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8295 SBB UN(TRACKPOINT TOUCHPAD)
42V8169 SBB 100GB HDD,7200RPM
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0805 VBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
42V8177 SBB INT.WIRE.WIFI/LINK4965AGN
62P6054 VBB INTEGR.BLUETOOTH PAN
39T4822 VBB WWAN
42V9332 SBB WAN:VERIZONSIERRACDMA2000
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
42X0779 SBB MSOFF SM 2007 ENGLISH


Ordered 8/16/07
Shipped 8/18/07
Received 8/23/07

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:36 pm
by varicella
Ordered my 14.1" 4:3 T61p on 8/14 and it shipped 8/18; original ship date was 8/31. I'm now camping in front of my porch.... ;)

Wait for T61p or get HP 8510w

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:20 am
by rstander
Ordered my T61p (6460 6XG) on the 23rd of July. Should have shipped 17 Aug, but on the 16th they let me know they need LCD stock and would receive it on the 31 Aug. Then it should sip 3rd Sep. I sit in South Africa, so shipping takes about 7 days and then you wait for customs. I can get an HP 8510w that's almost the exact spec as the T61p, but it has a T7700 CPU instead of the T7500, and also 1x2GB RAM, not 2x1GB, which makes upgrading much easier. The HP is also about R2280 ($325) cheaper than the Lenovo, and I can get it within 1 day.

What should I do. Wait, or get the HP. How is the HP build quality. Is the Lenovo really worth the wait, for lower specs and more expensive. My current notebook has an broken LCD, so I work via external screen. Really crap.

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:46 am
by rleo25
rstander the thinkpad deserves the wait. I would wait a longer time for this piece of excellency... you surely won´t regret, just be patient...

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:45 pm
by danny_isr
i just talked to UPS , they told me the customs still hold my package.
together with 144 other packages that came from the same source.
my package already got cleared. but they going to release them together.
so basically i'm waiting because of you now
:shock:

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:27 pm
by Eric Giles
So, in what will probably be a dumb move on my part, today I ordered another 14.1" SXGA+ T61p with the exact same configuration as the one I placed an order for on 8/08. My ESD on this one is 9/06.

My reason for doing this? Well, so many other people placed the order for theirs days after me and were having them ship out within one to four days of ordering-so I decided to try it myself! It was one of those spur of the moment deals, and maybe-just maybe-one of these orders will ship out soon. I will just call and cancel the one that does not.

This might be interesting....

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:08 am
by peaceridge
T61 14.1 SXGA+

ordered 8/10/07
notified shipped 8/14/07
RECIEVED! 8/20/07

8897CT CONFIGURED SYSTEM

42V8189 SBB INTEL CORE 2 DUO PRCESST7100
46P4166 VBB MICROSOFT WINXP PROFESSION
42V8376 SBB MS WIN XP PROF.US ENG.
42V8285 SBB 14.1 SXGA+ TFT
42X0807 SBB INTEL GMA X3100 W/OWWAN
41W2063 VBB 2GB PC2-5300 667MHZ 2DIMM
42V8195 SBB KEYBOARD US ENGLISH
42V8294 SBB UN(TRACKPOINT+TOUCHPAD)
42V8164 SBB 80GB HDD,5400RPM
42V8172 SBB DVD REC.8XMAXDUAL LAY UB-S
42X0805 VBB PC CARDSLOT EX CARDSLOT
41W1501 SBB INTELPRO/WL3945ABGUSCNLAAP
41W1508 SBB 6 CELL LI-ION BATTERY
41W1787 SBB CPK NORTH AMERICA
27R1769 SBB PSTN CABLE
42V8302 SBB LANGPACK US ENGLISH

Latest on mid Jul T61p w/UWB orders still not shipped

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:16 am
by hansontax
I still haven't received the T61p (6459 CTO) with UWB ordered on 7/12. Some of these machines have already shipped, while others have not.

After repeated requests, I was assigned a Lenovo Resolution Owner. I talked with him for the first time yesterday, 8/20. It was a conversation that might be of some interest to other early orderers of T61ps. My RO said my machine is scheduled to ship 9/3. He told me to pay no attention to the Lenovo order status information on their web site, which still shows a revised shipping date of 8/31{why do they even have an order status site?}. I asked him what sort of certainty he would assign to a 9/3 shipping date, and he placed the probability at about 70%. I appreciated his candor. Candor has been in short supply during this attempted transaction. I posed some other questions for him. Here are the answers...
1) He said he didn't know why some machines that are identical to mine have already shipped, although they were ordered later.
2) He said he had been told the parts shortages were caused by vendors not fulfilling their parts contracts on a timely basis.
3) He volunteered that he'd already upgraded my shipping, and would refund $250 off my purchase price. I appreciated the fact he offered these benefits without my having to ask. I don't know whether submission of a claim to the Iowa Attorney General's office had anything to do with it or not.


My last ThinkPad purchase was in 1999. IBM delivered it within days. I was blissfully ignorant of Lenovo's (or Dell's) history of late shipment of newly released, popular, computers until after I ordered mine in July. Now, of course, I would never rely on either firm to deliver a mission critical computer in a time sensitive situation. However, it's important to remember that there are still plenty of potential computer buyers out there who will rely on these firms, unaware that these firms really can't reasonably be relied on, given the recent past. I hope that some entity will investigate whether these chronic behaviors on the part of Lenovo and Dell stem from the intentional misrepresentation of estimated shipping dates, for the purpose of fraudulently inducing buyers to commit to their machines rather than other readily available machines, or whether some of the parts vendors have engaged in similar conduct.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:07 pm
by sugo
T61 14.1 SXGA+ intel graphics

ordered 8/14/07
shipped 8/18/07
received 8/20/07

Mine came with Thinkpad logo (no IBM logo) on lid and palmrest. TMD display perfect pixels. LG optical, Seagate hdd and Chicony keyboard.

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:40 am
by danny_isr
Finally , it's moving !

Rescheduled Delivery: 08/22/2007

oops

08/22/2007 4:25 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:46 am
by DranK
order date 7/20

est. ship date 8/22

order is still in process :( I did not call before, but now its time to call

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:17 pm
by newskin
DranK wrote:order date 7/20

est. ship date 8/22

order is still in process :( I did not call before, but now its time to call
Yea, Drank, I am in the same boat as you. I heard they are having shipments tomorrow, but I don't know how true that is. I think I am going to call tomorrow too. Let me know what you find out though.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:18 pm
by DranK
newskin, sorry to hear that, I feel your pain :( My new ESD is 9/24....

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:03 pm
by newskin
DranK wrote:newskin, sorry to hear that, I feel your pain :( My new ESD is 9/24....
My new ESD is 9/24 as well. I did managed to call them today and I first spoke with an Indian guy that assured me that it would ship by the end of this week. Then I got the call escalated to someone else who ended up telling me the exact same thing. I don't trust either of them because I have called 3 times before my ESD to check up on the status and was told by all three that there were not shortages and that my laptop should ship on or before the ESD. Also I see alot of posts from people who have ordered 7/12 and 7/11 who still have not has theirs shipped. In any case, if it doesn't ship by tomorrow which is the end of the working week I will start considering other options. Let me know what they tell you when you call.

P.S. He wouldn't even upgrade my shipping.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:40 am
by barrywohl
T61p with WUXGA and T7700.
Order date: July 26th.
Estimated ship date: August 28.
No change in the on line order status page since July 26.
I was "hoping" for a delivery date on or before the ESD it doesn't look good.

I keep checking my credit card for a charge. At what point in the process do they put the charge on your credit card?

The one I ordered on July 12th and canceled on July 26th arrived on August 13th (built on August 10, although the order status page showed it as canceled from August 1st on. Lenovo had UPS pick that one up. It was the same machine as the current order except I lowered the ordered RAM to supplement with aftermarket ram.

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:29 pm
by newskin
barrywohl wrote:T61p with WUXGA and T7700.
Order date: July 26th.
Estimated ship date: August 28.
No change in the on line order status page since July 26.
I was "hoping" for a delivery date on or before the ESD it doesn't look good.

I keep checking my credit card for a charge. At what point in the process do they put the charge on your credit card?

The one I ordered on July 12th and canceled on July 26th arrived on August 13th (built on August 10, although the order status page showed it as canceled from August 1st on. Lenovo had UPS pick that one up. It was the same machine as the current order except I lowered the ordered RAM to supplement with aftermarket ram.
Barry, they don't charge you until they have shipped. They do place a hold on your credit card though when you ordered, but yea don't hold your breath for them to ship it.

T61P ordered 7/22, just pushed again till 9/25

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:13 pm
by upnyc
t61P ship date pushed till end of sept on july order.

After waiting on the phone for an excessive period of time, i was able to talk to someone at Lenovo finally this week. The confirmed that my order of 7/22 would be shipping and was "in process" He said that he could see that it would release and month long "in process" was cleared. I would see the UPS tracking number.

I received notification that my order was pushed till 9/25. Just got the email a day after my unit was suppose to ship.

This is also the second unit I have ordered after returning a T60P that arrived with a broken keyboard, warped frame that would not sit flat and a vista wireless driver that would not work at 100%.

Defective Units, endless phone wait times no matter what option you push, Poor quality and dates being pushed.

Is it possible that they underpriced some of the units sold and are waiting till the forward pricing gets in line so they do not take a bath on the discounting offered.

t61p with uxga widescreen.

I have wasted so much time with my first order and the games have begun on the second.