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strange problem for my power manager

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 6:03 am
by chikhao
First thank Riddil for your solution about the wireless connection problem, I applied your method and it worked great, I have another problem. the power scheme as appeared in screen saver->power is normal. but when I launch the power manager, there are only three power schemes, and they are repeated for several times, which will give me really a long list. I have tried reinstalling both the power manager and its driver but won't work. anybody have any idea? thanks!

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:46 pm
by trd
Yeah I have the same problem too. need help!!

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:02 pm
by redburgundy
I have five schemes

Power Source Optimized
Thinkpad default
Maximum Performance
Maximum Battery Life
Timers Off (presentation)

plus one I defined myself.

You could try to delete the duplicated schemes.

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 4:09 pm
by trd
I used to have those schemes and now they are gone...don't know why.
I couldn't create the new one too.

Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 6:15 pm
by gunston
did you use CHC?

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:44 am
by Ishrimak
Hi,

I have exactly the same problem, does anyone managed to solve it ?
I had all those profiles until yesterday and now I can't switch between profiles, I can't create and edit the existing ones ...

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 1:16 pm
by christopher_wolf
Well, the real solution to this lies in the registry; under HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\PowerCfg\PowerPolicies\

There you should find *all* of your scheme settings, but be very careful if you do choose to go mucking about with it. There are some solutions and registry keysets available on the forum here; do a search and you should find them, I think the set was in the T4X Series forum.

Anyway, I am going to play around with this because I discovered something fairly interesting in, there is a set of *.ini files that define behavior, some are the normal preset schemes you get when you install the power manager, and some are marked as *Fan Control* schemes; poking around in the Reg, I also found the place where it sets the fan states. I tried them out and they actual do what they are supposed to.... :D


Funny thing, though, is that the fan is set to a higher level on DC power than AC!

To clarify that further, your *specific* schemes that you made or want to delete in the power manager will be under some user designation that is not under .DEFAULT; to find it, do a search through the registry under HKEY_USERS with a bit of the name from the current scheme in the power manager.

PS: Note also that, if you have ever used Notebook Hardware Control, that you will see a few folder entries saying "Notebook Hardware Control" in the power policies sub-folder. It appears as if, as suspected, NHC changes these reg entries dramatically. To prevent modification, the hexadecimal value on some is set to 0x00000007 (or just 7 in decimal) in the ProhibitModification field.

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:29 pm
by christopher_wolf
Check the registry entries for your user profile, there shouldn't be tons of them. Delete all of the excess power policies/schemes, then reinstall the Power Manager, then reboot. That should get everything working fine again.

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:10 pm
by GomJabbar
christopher_wolf wrote:Check the registry entries for your user profile, there shouldn't be tons of them. Delete all of the excess power policies/schemes, then reinstall the Power Manager, then reboot. That should get everything working fine again.
I would be careful with the above procedure. I did that awhile back and mucked it up to where I had no profiles that I could apply. I was not able to fix it, and System Restore for some reason would not restore to an earlier system restore point. In the end I restored factory contents to get everything working properly again.

I am not saying not to try christopher_wolf's idea, but be sure and save (export) a copy of your registry before you start, so you can go back if you muck things up. I did not do this - to my chagrin.

I have seen several users fix their power policies by running a reg file that has a good copy of them. I'll try and find the thread and post back.

EDIT: Here is the thread: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=25010 . This is for a T43, so you should try to get the code for the T60.

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:04 pm
by christopher_wolf
GomJabbar wrote:
christopher_wolf wrote:Check the registry entries for your user profile, there shouldn't be tons of them. Delete all of the excess power policies/schemes, then reinstall the Power Manager, then reboot. That should get everything working fine again.
I would be careful with the above procedure. I did that awhile back and mucked it up to where I had no profiles that I could apply. I was not able to fix it, and System Restore for some reason would not restore to an earlier system restore point. In the end I restored factory contents to get everything working properly again.

I am not saying not to try christopher_wolf's idea, but be sure and save (export) a copy of your registry before you start, so you can go back if you muck things up. I did not do this - to my chagrin.

I have seen several users fix their power policies by running a reg file that has a good copy of them. I'll try and find the thread and post back.

EDIT: Here is the thread: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=25010 . This is for a T43, so you should try to get the code for the T60.
This is a good point, make an Export backup of the registry if you attempt this.

Just to note, I have tried that on my system, after backing up and intentionally re-creating the problem, and it got the power manager back fully functional. You can even change the fan levels directly without having to be limited to two states in the power manager; but we already have the TP FCU for that. ;) :)

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:01 pm
by GomJabbar
christopher_wolf wrote: Just to note, I have tried that on my system, after backing up and intentionally re-creating the problem, and it got the power manager back fully functional. You can even change the fan levels directly without having to be limited to two states in the power manager; but we already have the TP FCU for that. ;) :)
Well, I came up through the bilge as it were. As such, I have not had any formal schooling for working with regedt32. I pick up bits and pieces here and there, and usually it all works out fine in the end. My one time messing with the power policies was an exception. I thought I had it figured out, but I really didn't. :roll:

You with your formal education (your profile indicates you have been formally trained in computers), should know better what you are doing than I do. :wink:

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:25 pm
by christopher_wolf
GomJabbar wrote:
christopher_wolf wrote: Just to note, I have tried that on my system, after backing up and intentionally re-creating the problem, and it got the power manager back fully functional. You can even change the fan levels directly without having to be limited to two states in the power manager; but we already have the TP FCU for that. ;) :)
Well, I came up through the bilge as it were. As such, I have not had any formal schooling for working with regedt32. I pick up bits and pieces here and there, and usually it all works out fine in the end. My one time messing with the power policies was an exception. I thought I had it figured out, but I really didn't. :roll:

You with your formal education (your profile indicates you have been formally trained in computers), should know better what you are doing than I do. :wink:
With or without formal training, doesn't matter; at some point, ingrained thoughts run out and you hav to either learn from the situation, adapt, and gain experience or simply wipe out.

And it is nearly always gained with a Hammer or a Wrench for the Engineer; the bigger the Hammer or Wrench, the Happier the Engineer and the Quicker the Problem is Solved. ;) :D

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:39 pm
by GomJabbar
christopher_wolf wrote:And it is nearly always gained with a Hammer or a Wrench for the Engineer; the bigger the Hammer or Wrench, the Happier the Engineer and the Quicker the Problem is Solved. ;) :D
Hey, you're giving away my trade secrets here! :lol:

Engineer's motto: "When all else fails, get a bigger hammer" :idea:

Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:52 pm
by christopher_wolf
GomJabbar wrote:
christopher_wolf wrote:And it is nearly always gained with a Hammer or a Wrench for the Engineer; the bigger the Hammer or Wrench, the Happier the Engineer and the Quicker the Problem is Solved. ;) :D
Hey, you're giving away my trade secrets here! :lol:

Engineer's motto: "When all else fails, get a bigger hammer" :idea:
Mine too! ;)

One of my favorite engineering classes; "Percussive Maintenance 101" :D