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Because it doesn't work, as reported by brosen. I just noticed the same on my X60s. I hope IBM/Lenovo can fix this asap.GomJabbar wrote:While the above driver may work, why not get the IBM/Lenovo one?
After many hours of investigation and try and error, I have concluded (it is also in an statement in IBM/Lenovo web site) that Windows 2000 it is NOT compatible with Code Duo, the problem is Microsoft !!!!!!,domi wrote:Because it doesn't work, as reported by brosen. I just noticed the same on my X60s. I hope IBM/Lenovo can fix this asap.GomJabbar wrote:While the above driver may work, why not get the IBM/Lenovo one?
I agree,asiafish wrote:How can the problem be with Microsoft? Windows 2000 was released back in 1999, about 7 years before the CoreDuo came out. if anyone is to blame for a 7-year-old OS not supporting a brand new processor its Intel.
Do you have a link with the IBM/Lenovo statement? It would really be sad if it were the case. But assuming it is true, why did IBM/Lenovo release a T60/X60-specific version of the SpeedStep applet, giving us the impression the new Core processors *are* in fact compatible with W2K? Why didn't they make their statement there?brosen wrote:After many hours of investigation and try and error, I have concluded (it is also in an statement in IBM/Lenovo web site) that Windows 2000 it is NOT compatible with Code Duo, the problem is Microsoft !!!!!!,
I seem to remember there are 3rd-party SpeedStep managers available for XP (some people think the built-in support is pretty dumb). Let's hope some smart person will do something similar for W2K, if Intel refuses to do it.christopher_wolf wrote:Well, that and the fact that Intel probably doesn't care to support Windows 2000 in the first place.
Well, as recently as May-06, Lenovo released R60's and R60e's with CoreDuo, CoreSolo and Celeron-M. That's probably also called "marketing"asiafish wrote:Its called marketing. When you go to Dell or whoever and buy a laptop with CoreDuo processor, they still put XP Home on the cheapo models. Not sure if Lenovo does the same with the ThinkPads, but I think they do with some of the 3000 series.
Just to clarify Windows 2000 will work, with 1 or 2 CPUs, the problems is, Windows 2000 will not be able to Manage the Speedstep Technology, so the CPU will run always at MAX speed.christopher_wolf wrote:Then I must be missing something. I think though, that for the for the COAs, Microsoft tried a different licensing tactic that counted 1-2 CPU systems; I do know, however, that they have made some small changes as of late. I don't think there are many dual-core system that get shipped with Windows 2000 on them, at least not from what I have seen.
Yes, I did mean Windows 2000 only; I jumped the gun a little when I was starting to think about Windows 2003 Server.
But as to Windows XP *Home* shipping on dual core systems? Now *that* I have no explanation for.
I saw you have installed Windows 2000 SP4 in your X60s, how are you managing the CPU Speed and Powersave while in batteries ?, are you using NHC (Notebook Hardware Contro) or RightMark CPU ?, I was not able to succesfully manage the Speedstep Technology with any of those, please your comments, thanksdomi wrote:Do you have a link with the IBM/Lenovo statement? It would really be sad if it were the case. But assuming it is true, why did IBM/Lenovo release a T60/X60-specific version of the SpeedStep applet, giving us the impression the new Core processors *are* in fact compatible with W2K? Why didn't they make their statement there?brosen wrote:After many hours of investigation and try and error, I have concluded (it is also in an statement in IBM/Lenovo web site) that Windows 2000 it is NOT compatible with Code Duo, the problem is Microsoft !!!!!!,
They seems (3rd Party) to work fine under Windows 2000, but from what I've seen they do not behave properlydomi wrote:I seem to remember there are 3rd-party SpeedStep managers available for XP (some people think the built-in support is pretty dumb). Let's hope some smart person will do something similar for W2K, if Intel refuses to do it.christopher_wolf wrote:Well, that and the fact that Intel probably doesn't care to support Windows 2000 in the first place.
How do you interpret the following link:asiafish wrote:Besides, plenty of CoreDuo laptops come loaded with XP Home, which makes no sense as it doesn't support dual processors, but it still runs fine.
I bumped into the same problem as you: the SpeedStep applet for Windows 2000 won't load if Core Duo is enabled in BIOS. When it's disabled, it will load, but you still can't change the CPU speed (= CPU is running at the full 1.66 GHz all the time).brosen wrote:I saw you have installed Windows 2000 SP4 in your X60s, how are you managing the CPU Speed and Powersave while in batteries ?
I haven't tried either yet, but I'll take your word for granted. I did file a request by clicking on Submit a request on the SpeedStep applet page. I'm not too hopeful it will lead anywhere, though.brosen wrote:are you using NHC (Notebook Hardware Contro) or RightMark CPU ?, I was not able to succesfully manage the Speedstep Technology with any of those, please your comments, thanks
I think the answer from Lenovo will be "Windows 2000 is Supported only when Core Multi-Processing is disabled", as it is stated in their website. I feel baddomi wrote:I bumped into the same problem as you: the SpeedStep applet for Windows 2000 won't load if Core Duo is enabled in BIOS. When it's disabled, it will load, but you still can't change the CPU speed (= CPU is running at the full 1.66 GHz all the time).brosen wrote:I saw you have installed Windows 2000 SP4 in your X60s, how are you managing the CPU Speed and Powersave while in batteries ?
I haven't tried either yet, but I'll take your word for granted. I did file a request by clicking on Submit a request on the SpeedStep applet page. I'm not too hopeful it will lead anywhere, though.brosen wrote:are you using NHC (Notebook Hardware Contro) or RightMark CPU ?, I was not able to succesfully manage the Speedstep Technology with any of those, please your comments, thanks
, about, this I have changed my X32 because T60p will be compatible with Windows 2000, and now I have to live with the JUNK XP.I would suggest you to try NHC and RightMark, maybe I did something wrong ???domi wrote:I bumped into the same problem as you: the SpeedStep applet for Windows 2000 won't load if Core Duo is enabled in BIOS. When it's disabled, it will load, but you still can't change the CPU speed (= CPU is running at the full 1.66 GHz all the time).brosen wrote:I saw you have installed Windows 2000 SP4 in your X60s, how are you managing the CPU Speed and Powersave while in batteries ?
I haven't tried either yet, but I'll take your word for granted. I did file a request by clicking on Submit a request on the SpeedStep applet page. I'm not too hopeful it will lead anywhere, though.brosen wrote:are you using NHC (Notebook Hardware Contro) or RightMark CPU ?, I was not able to succesfully manage the Speedstep Technology with any of those, please your comments, thanks
I'll let you know if/when I get a reply from them!brosen wrote:I think the answer from Lenovo will be "Windows 2000 is Supported only when Core Multi-Processing is disabled", as it is stated in their website.
Same here (switching from an X31 to an X60s): I was already rejoicing for having escaped the whole XP nonsense, for more than 5 years already! I still can't believe I'm forced to use it just to get the benefits of SpeedStep (a technology that has been working fine in W2K ever since the TP 600X/650MHz), back in early 2000.brosen wrote:I feel bad