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Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:28 am**

hello again to all.

i recently purchased a new hard drive Seagate 80GB 5400SATA. i removed the existing Hitachi 100GB 7200SATA hard drive, and placed the new Seagate as the main hard disk. i then used the R&R discs to install the entire OS including the R&R partition to the Seagate drive. all went well and i have now two hard discs with complete OS in both.

After completing all of these, I then re-placed the Hitachi drive as the main drive and placed the Seagate drive in the Ultrabay (using adapter). I set the bios to boot from the seagate drive in the Ultrabay and the t60p booted from the Seagate drive with no problem.

However, when I set it to boot from the hitachi drive, in the main drive bay, the boot would not complete. I found out later that this is because even if i have set the t60p to boot from the Hitachi drive the t60p still sets the Seagate drive to be drive C: (system drive) and the hard disk(Hitachi) from where it has booted is now drive D: Note that I have only 1 partition on both drives.

I later found also, after removing the Seagate drive, that I have ruined my OS on the Hitachi drive and had to do a complete R&R on the Hitachi Disk.

Do anybody have any insights on how i can force the t60p to set as drive C: the disk from where it has booted from. Can this be a bios issue (i have the latest bios 1.06 installed).

Thanks

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200783H T60P (HK model - same intermittent whining noise when on batteries)

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:19 am**

rnsolo wrote:hello again to all.

i recently purchased a new hard drive Seagate 80GB 5400SATA. i removed the existing Hitachi 100GB 7200SATA hard drive, and placed the new Seagate as the main hard disk. i then used the R&R discs to install the entire OS including the R&R partition to the Seagate drive. all went well and i have now two hard discs with complete OS in both.

After completing all of these, I then re-placed the Hitachi drive as the main drive and placed the Seagate drive in the Ultrabay (using adapter). I set the bios to boot from the seagate drive in the Ultrabay and the t60p booted from the Seagate drive with no problem.

I don't know how you ended up roasting the preload image on the Hitachi though.
However, when I set it to boot from the hitachi drive, in the main drive bay, the boot would not complete. I found out later that this is because even if i have set the t60p to boot from the Hitachi drive the t60p still sets the Seagate drive to be drive C: (system drive) and the hard disk(Hitachi) from where it has booted is now drive D: Note that I have only 1 partition on both drives.

I later found also, after removing the Seagate drive, that I have ruined my OS on the Hitachi drive and had to do a complete R&R on the Hitachi Disk.

Do anybody have any insights on how i can force the t60p to set as drive C: the disk from where it has booted from. Can this be a bios issue (i have the latest bios 1.06 installed).

Thanks

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200783H T60P (HK model - same intermittent whining noise when on batteries)

Not so much a BIOS issue as an issue of getting Windows to know which drive it is booting off of; namely, Windows doesn't expect another drive, during boot, being an exact mirror image of the drive it is booting from to begin with. Reverse that with the Hitachi as the image clone recepient and the Seagate as the original source and you will get the same problem.

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:29 am**

thanks Chris,

and yes, i did interchange the drives once after a complete R&R on both and the result was the same.

i am just wondering since i do this routinely on my desktop, having two drives with similar OS and similar configurations. my desktop always identifies drive C as the disk from where it booted from.

I dont know why i cant do the same with the t60p.

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 4:57 am**

rnsolo wrote:thanks Chris,

and yes, i did interchange the drives once after a complete R&R on both and the result was the same.

i am just wondering since i do this routinely on my desktop, having two drives with similar OS and similar configurations. my desktop always identifies drive C as the disk from where it booted from.

I dont know why i cant do the same with the t60p.

It might be that the Predesktop partition is somehow messing with the BIOS boot; I don't know what effect two copies of the same Preload with the R&R partition on it would do as it is considered by the BIOS during boot since the BIOS has to launch the Predesktop area upon the signal from the user via the F11 key or "ThinkVantage" button during boot. There could be some sort of conflict between the two that is causing that.

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:22 am**

very well explained. yes, the predesktop could be the culprit.
thanks again chris

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:27 am**

Here is another thread on the same subject I remembered reading awhile back.

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=18874

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:42 am**

I just went through the same problem last weekend. I was going to try bootpart to boot to the ultrabay. Hope it works

Posted: **Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:05 am**

Up to XP SP1, you could boot either drive with the same license on both drives (via the recovery CD). After SP2, you can't do that. So far as I know, if you have separate license, it works just fine.

I used to do a rebuild by initializing a new drive, set it up, but be able to boot to the production drive when necessary. At the completion (a week's worth of work), implement the new drive and format the old one. So there was an overlap of about a week with the same license. Not possible now in any of my tests. ... JD Hurst

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