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Bluetooth mouse for the T60?

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:35 pm
by jjesusfreak01
Does anyone have an opinion on any good BT mice that will work with the T60? Also, does anyone think that maybe a BT mouse isnt the way to go. So you know, I have nothing against the trackpoint or touchpad, but I think (feel free to try to convince me otherwise) that maybe an external mouse might be better when using the computer on a desk.

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:54 pm
by christopher_wolf
Well, I would go with a wired optical mouse. To me, either recharging and/or paying for batteries for a wireless BT mouse isn't exactly the greatest value for the money if you are going to be using it at a desk or doing some light travel with it. It is alot easier, and less expensive, to get a robust USB optical mouse.

HTH :)

Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:42 pm
by guYom
I got the Logitech V270, about 40USD at Microcenter. I have been using it for almost a month, very happy so far. It is not one of those tiny laptop mice, which is a plus for me, I wanted something suitable for a large hand!

I have to admit wireless is very nice, and especially BT, nothing bulging out of your USB port... just turn the mouse on, that's it, you are ready to go.

I took an external keyboard, USB wired, a Kesington, very flat and black, keys have a nice feeling too, was only 14USD.

My T60 is elevated on a small metalic stand when I work at my desk.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:06 am
by Puppy

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:27 am
by jjesusfreak01
christopher_wolf wrote:Well, I would go with a wired optical mouse. To me, either recharging and/or paying for batteries for a wireless BT mouse isn't exactly the greatest value for the money if you are going to be using it at a desk or doing some light travel with it. It is alot easier, and less expensive, to get a robust USB optical mouse.

HTH :)
Any recommendations on the wired optical mice?

I actually found some good non BT wireless mice (laptop mice) for really cheap, but it just feels wrong to go wireless with anything but BlueTooth.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:12 am
by Anthony S
We discussed BT mice and the Logitech V270 in particular some weeks ago

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=26739

Then I recommended the V270 and I still do (except that the connection is occasionally lost, but I don't think the mouse is to blame).

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:20 am
by testthings
I just got a BT mouse(from Cellink) and a BT stereo headset(Goertek GSH300).
The mouse runs smoothly ALONE.
The headset plays music smoothly ALONE.
However, If I put them together, either the mouse or the headset gets stuck sometimes.
I think there's some problem with T60 BT driver.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:31 am
by Anthony S
testthings wrote: The mouse runs smoothly ALONE.
I thought for a minute that you had a mouse that didnt need to be pushed by hand ':?'
I think there's some problem with T60 BT driver.
My own experience also suggests that the Broadcom driver is faulty.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:39 pm
by rvacha
Way too cool for a stodgy TP 8) BT, Slips into your machine's PC Card slot, charges while in there

http://www.newtonperipherals.com/

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:18 pm
by jjesusfreak01
rvacha wrote:Way too cool for a stodgy TP 8) BT, Slips into your machine's PC Card slot, charges while in there

http://www.newtonperipherals.com/
I remember my father once had a laptop that had a mouse that popped out the side, but was connected by two little plastic arms so it had full movement. He says it might have been a mac, but he doesnt really remember.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 3:33 pm
by rvacha
It was I believe an H-P Handheld PC (HPC) - something like the 470 or something. That mouse, however, was physically attached to the machine

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:46 pm
by jjesusfreak01
rvacha wrote:It was I believe an H-P Handheld PC (HPC) - something like the 470 or something. That mouse, however, was physically attached to the machine
Nah, it was a full sized laptop.

Edit: Found it...it was an HP Omnibook 800. You were fairly close though. Here is a picture.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:58 pm
by foodle
It was the HP Omnibook 800 laptop that had the built-in mouse. I never had one, but did seriously consider the machine at the time.

Personally, I've found BT mice a little too flakey (except the Apple one) and somewhat heavy due to the batteries. On a desk, I typically use one of the newer Logitech corded USB optical mice. Travelling, I like the IBM 3-button scroll wheel travel mouse. It's light, small, comfortable, and most importantly matches my T60's exterior.

Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:26 pm
by hugo
Do you have to install logitech mouse driver to use v270?

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:41 pm
by guYom
when I got my V270, I first updated to the latest bluetooth program from ThinkPad Lenovo site, next I installed the program that came on a CD from logitech called SetPoint. I don't believe I installed a driver, unless it was part of the SetPoint install.

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:06 am
by hugo
guYom wrote:when I got my V270, I first updated to the latest bluetooth program from ThinkPad Lenovo site, next I installed the program that came on a CD from logitech called SetPoint. I don't believe I installed a driver, unless it was part of the SetPoint install.
Thank you. Is SetPoint required for V270?

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:24 am
by Anthony S
hugo wrote:Is SetPoint required for V270?
No, SetPoint is not required. If you don't install it, the V270 will run with the BT software in the T60/p. Just search for devices in My Bluetooth Places.

The only advantage of SetPoint that I can see is a bit more configuration flexibility (eg., in my case, setting wheel click to backspace).

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:36 pm
by Simba
Logitech V270 is heavy due to the 2 batteries.
I returned it back to buy.com.

if ur used to a light weight mouse, then dont buy Logitech V270. just a fyi.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:24 pm
by hugo
Anthony S wrote:
hugo wrote:Is SetPoint required for V270?
No, SetPoint is not required. If you don't install it, the V270 will run with the BT software in the T60/p. Just search for devices in My Bluetooth Places.

The only advantage of SetPoint that I can see is a bit more configuration flexibility (eg., in my case, setting wheel click to backspace).
Thanks, I have three logitech mouses already, I will buy a V270 when there is a deal ...

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:48 pm
by daeojkim
I have a Logitech V270 and I have been very happy with it.

The battery lasted a ridiculously long time. 6 months. Mainly because I use trackpoint more, but I never turned off the mouse for 6 months.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:37 am
by Anthony S
Simba wrote:Logitech V270 is heavy due to the 2 batteries.
It will run perfectly well on one battery.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:23 am
by jjesusfreak01
Anthony S wrote:
Simba wrote:Logitech V270 is heavy due to the 2 batteries.
It will run perfectly well on one battery.
Now that is a feature the likes of which I have never seen.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:31 am
by bri
I'm using a Logitech MX1000. Works fine and it's rechargeable 8) Just not the most optimal shape for my hand

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:38 am
by spiike
I'm on a Logitech Dinovo bluetooth set and it is awesome. They go for about 100 now online. The new laser ones are a little more.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:46 am
by Anthony S
bri wrote:I'm using a Logitech MX1000. Works fine and it's rechargeable ...
Sounds good, but this thread is about Bluetooth mice and the MX1000 isn't a Bluetooth mouse.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:51 am
by bri
Anthony S wrote:
bri wrote:I'm using a Logitech MX1000. Works fine and it's rechargeable ...
Sounds good, but this thread is about Bluetooth mice and the MX1000 isn't a Bluetooth mouse.
Oops, I should specify I have the DiNovo version. Iwas not aware the original one isn't Bluetooth.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:59 am
by Anthony S
Another BT mouse is the Targus Bluetooth Mini Mouse
http://www.targus.com/us/product_detail ... ku=AMB01US
It runs on a pair of the smaller AAA batteries so is small and light - thus portable, though maybe too small for some people.

For anybody who gets one, you don't need the USB adapter that comes with it. And don't install the software - just pair and go.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:09 pm
by Anthony S
bri wrote:
Anthony S wrote: Sounds good, but this thread is about Bluetooth mice and the MX1000 isn't a Bluetooth mouse.
Oops, I should specify I have the DiNovo version. Iwas not aware the original one isn't Bluetooth.
As I understand it the Logitech diNovo Media Desktop consists essentially of a Bluetooth keyboard connected to which a standard MX1000 mouse communicates via its RF link. So, not really a Bluetooth mouse, but to be sure an interesting setup.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:03 pm
by bri
Anthony S wrote: As I understand it the Logitech diNovo Media Desktop consists essentially of a Bluetooth keyboard connected to which a standard MX1000 mouse communicates via its RF link. So, not really a Bluetooth mouse, but to be sure an interesting setup.
The DiNovo MX1000 indeed uses Bluetooth, I have it paired with my T60 and the keyboard is nowhere in sight. Integrating two RF devices in the same product is absolutely bad design. See product page below -

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/produ ... NTID=10777
• MX™ 1000 Laser mouse for Bluetooth®

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 4:33 pm
by Anthony S
bri wrote: The DiNovo MX1000 indeed uses Bluetooth
Well, then I stand corrected :(

Logitech's product page for the MX 1000 describes it as using "fast RF" but has no mention of Bluetooth, whereas the diNovo Media Desktop is indeed specified as having "MX 1000 Laser mouse for Bluetooth". Bit odd, though, that they don't differentiate the two subspecies of mouse in any way.
I have it paired with my T60 and the keyboard is nowhere in sight.
And is the MediaPad not required?

If it's not getting off topic, perhaps you could share your experience with the diNovo Media Desktop. Is there any reason you're not using the keyboard?